Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beatles 24 vs 16 bits...

2010-01-15 Thread dcolak
Stratmangler;499634 Wrote: EMI did future proof the Beatles remastering project as far as was possible - see this article http://www.theinsider.com/news/2102658_Re_Mastering_the_BEATLES_Catalog_The_Process I agree that the sample rate seems to be the key to improved audio - most of the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beatles 24 vs 16 bits...

2010-01-15 Thread Robin Bowes
On 15/01/10 12:23, dcolak wrote: It's really not necessary to have anything above 44.1Khz (resolution) and 24bit (dynamic range), unless you can hear sounds over 22Khz. This is true *only* in theory and when specific assumptions are made. Check the Nyquist theorem:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beatles 24 vs 16 bits...

2010-01-15 Thread DaveWr
dcolak;506624 Wrote: It's really not necessary to have anything above 44.1Khz (resolution) and 24bit (dynamic range), unless you can hear sounds over 22Khz. Check the Nyquist theorem: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyquist%E2%80%93Shannon_sampling_theorem The 24 bit issue is still over

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to make vacuum tubes by hand....

2010-01-15 Thread kphinney
Way out of my league and level of patience, but it's a nice reminder where that great sound and warm glow comes from. I picked it up off a DIY site. The video is at the bottom. http://paillard.claude.free.fr/ -- kphinney -I like it, you may not. I understand and respect that.-

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to make vacuum tubes by hand....

2010-01-15 Thread seanadams
This is next on my list of post-apocalyptic skills to master by 2012. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Simaudio's new 32 bit DAC

2010-01-15 Thread Kellen
Is 32 bits really needed or is this just a marketing ploy? http://www.simaudio.com/moon750D.htm -- Kellen Kellen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16569 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Simaudio's new 32 bit DAC

2010-01-15 Thread Pat Farrell
Kellen wrote: Is 32 bits really needed or is this just a marketing ploy? Needed for what? Human's can not hear more than was a well recorded 16 bit signal contains. Its good to use longer signals when mixing, doing effects, etc. Its 99% marketing when they sell 24 bit recordings. 88.2 Hz

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Simaudio's new 32 bit DAC

2010-01-15 Thread georgeh
From their website: ...the MOON 750D is extremely flexible and exemplifies a luxurious lifestyle. Seriously though, does anybody even publish 32 bit music? -- georgeh Just a radio... for now. georgeh's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Simaudio's new 32 bit DAC

2010-01-15 Thread Pat Farrell
georgeh wrote: Seriously though, does anybody even publish 32 bit music? That can't be a serious question. If there is some audiofool who will pay more for 32 bit or even 64 bit, then someone will sell it. It may have only RedBook data on it, like many SACDs, but there is nothing wrong with

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Simaudio's new 32 bit DAC

2010-01-15 Thread michael123
I think 32 bit is mostly used to lower noise floor. Also, if transporter had 32bit input, I would send the output from Sox as 32-bit, to minimize rounding errors RE: 16bit vs 24bit music: of course I hear the difference. I hear all the little nuances now, which were hidden by 16-bit precision.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Simaudio's new 32 bit DAC

2010-01-15 Thread Mnyb
Marketing buzzwords , many dacs and processors use oversampling upsampling and all kind of mathematics to process audio, mostly to counteract filter artifacts and such problems move the noise spectra somewhere benign etc. My meridian HT preamp uses 64bit floating point internally, but it still a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Simaudio's new 32 bit DAC

2010-01-15 Thread Pat Farrell
michael123 wrote: I think 32 bit is mostly used to lower noise floor. Huh? RedBook has a SNR of 96dB. That is already way below audible. 24 bit takes the SNR is 144 dB. In absolute silence, 144 dB will cause ear damage. Not probably, will. Or as OSHA says, maximum allowed exposure to 115 dB is

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Simaudio's new 32 bit DAC

2010-01-15 Thread Mnyb
Is this the rms figures ? music peaks are very fast fortunately (milliseconds). It's not a problem to see peaks ~115dB on a dance floor. Here in Sweden i think we have an 85dB limit for 8 hour exposure ( a workday ) otherwise ear protection is mandatory. don't remember if it is a or c curve.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Simaudio's new 32 bit DAC

2010-01-15 Thread Themis
I think the word length used (32bit) has to do with the more recent chip used, NOT the music signal itself. It's used to lower artifacts, not SNR. I doubt 16bit chips will still exist in a few years... -- Themis SB3 - North Star dac 192 - Cyrus 8xp - Sonus Faber Grand Piano Domus

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Simaudio's new 32 bit DAC

2010-01-15 Thread michael123
Themis;506978 Wrote: I think the word length used (32bit) has to do with the more recent chip used, NOT the music signal itself. It's used to lower artifacts, not SNR. This is what I actually meant. As with Transporter, where measurable resolution (e.g. output voltage) is merely 21bit, I do

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Simaudio's new 32 bit DAC

2010-01-15 Thread Pat Farrell
Themis wrote: I think the word length used (32bit) has to do with the more recent chip used, NOT the music signal itself. It's used to lower artifacts, not SNR. Which specific artifacts? I doubt 16bit chips will still exist in a few years... Externally 16 bits? I will bet that they sure

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Antipodal filtering

2010-01-15 Thread michael123
MadScientist;505764 Wrote: I'm trying to do some testing but I'm not sure I'm using sox correctly as I keep getting files of vastly different sizes (compression) I'm using the following code to upsample flac 16/44 files: cd %~dp0 mkdir converted2 FOR %%A IN (%*) DO sox -v0.995 -V3 %%A