Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-19 Thread SoftwireEngineer
adamdea;664035 Wrote: It is worth noting that it is now possible to buy cheap dacs with virtually no jitter (as measured by the conventional j test)ie jitter-rejection and intrinsic jitter to a level below anything that mainstream theory would consider to be significant. An example would be

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Stylish tiny amp for Touch

2011-10-19 Thread Phil Leigh
castalla;664181 Wrote: I'm looking for something like the sumoh amp - small, stylish, and with auto-on. Something which doesn't look like it would be better suited for a Soviet-era Mig 21 cockpit (if you get what I mean!). Any suggestions? So, no valves then? -- Phil Leigh You want

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-19 Thread soundcheck
Hi guys. There are also endless discussions about jitter and other distortions at Audio Asyslum. Fact is that there is NO device at any price out which has proven to manage to decouple 100% from source induced jitter/timing variations, common-mode-noise, power variations, mains polution,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-19 Thread firedog
Stilly77;664118 Wrote: agree good jitter read: http://amorgignitamorem.nl/Audio/Jitter/Detection%20threshold%20for%20distortions%20due%20to%20jitter%20on%20digital%20audio%2026_50.pdf Except that that test, just like many such tests, doesn't account for the listener and his abilities.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-19 Thread Stilly77
firedog;664215 Wrote: Except that that test, just like many such tests, doesn't truly account for the listener and his abilities. The article itself notes that listeners abilties may be critical. And just because audio professionals were used, it doesn't mean they understand what jitter

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-19 Thread adamdea
firedog;664215 Wrote: Except that that test, just like many such tests, doesn't truly account for the listener and his abilities. The article itself notes that listeners abilties may be critical. And just because audio professionals were used, it doesn't mean they understand what jitter

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-19 Thread Phil Leigh
adamdea;664230 Wrote: AFAIK You would not expect a decently designed dac to show jitter levels on the j test over maybe 200pS (ie 100 times lower than 20ns) on 16 bit data and considerably less on 24 bit data . Many are now much lower (the MF VDAC2 was measured at 10pS for 24/48 by Paul

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dvdshopsonline-Have you shopped there?

2011-10-19 Thread beritly
I recently came across this site whilst looking for tv series dvds: dvdshopsonline The prices are REALLY cheap,Star Trek Voyager Seasons 1-7 DVD Boxset for R896.60 .It's 999 for one season at musica and 300-400 per season on kalahari. To get to the point has anyone used the site before,I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Stylish tiny amp for Touch

2011-10-19 Thread castalla
I like the sumoh look - minimalist (shame there isn't a silver version)! And on another note they only accept Paypal (and Paypal won't let me use my UK credit card because I live in Spain!!!). The Trend looks almost the job apart from the four engineering bolt holes. I've no idea what I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SlimDevices-branded Transporter for sale, with added goodies

2011-10-19 Thread bklaas
FYI, the Transporter and goodies have been sold. cheers, #!/ben -- bklaas Former Logitech Developer: Squeezeplay/SqueezeOS/SqueezeboxController/SqueezeCenter Community Developer: Nokia770Skin (r.i.p.) http://www.last.fm/user/bklaas/ 'KHAAAN!' (http://khaaan.com/)...'BUNNIES!'

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Stylish tiny amp for Touch

2011-10-19 Thread JJZolx
How about this one? I wouldn't want an amp without a volume control. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Muse-M50-TPA3123-Stereo-Amplifier/dp/B005OSFWPQ [image: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41JbBiNxddL._SL500_AA300_.jpg] -- JJZolx » » Download 'Squeezebox Server 7.5.6 r35834'

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Stylish tiny amp for Touch

2011-10-19 Thread castalla
Interesting I'll try to find a review. Thanks. -- castalla 1 Touch - cheap unbranded optical cable - old Sony Microsystem - Aqustics Q10 speakers - 2 duff ears - purrfekt! castalla's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-19 Thread SoftwireEngineer
I agree with most of what Soundcheck wrote. Jitter happens at source as well as during transmission. If you have bits in memory and you clock it out at a certain frequency, say 44.1kHz, the clock's instability is the source of jitter. If these bits are transmitted over a cable to a separate DAC,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-19 Thread pandasharka
I use Soundcheck's mods and believe they give a noticeable improvement. Don't know how or why and would prefer to keep it that way. Looking forward to trying 3.0 when Klaus releases it. All this talk about jitter etc is over my head, surely life is too short? Why not just enjoy the Squeezebox

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Wireless speakers

2011-10-19 Thread MichaelJ
Here's yet another optionhttp://axiomaudio.com/flatspeakerwirewhite.html -- MichaelJ MichaelJ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43215 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Stylish tiny amp for Touch

2011-10-19 Thread aubuti
There's also this one from Audioengine: http://audioengineusa.com/Store/Audioengine-N22. I don't know anything about their amp, but their self-amplified speakers get great reviews around here for being excellent value for money. Or if you want to go real minimalist you could forget the new amp

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Stylish tiny amp for Touch

2011-10-19 Thread castalla
Audioengine - nice but a bit pricey, although cheaper than the sumoh. I can't find any reviews for the Muse - bit of a stab in the dark? -- castalla 1 Touch - cheap unbranded optical cable - old Sony Microsystem - Aqustics Q10 speakers - 2 duff ears - purrfekt!

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Stylish tiny amp for Touch

2011-10-19 Thread aubuti
Ok, if US$200 is too steep then that narrows things down a lot. Earlier, when I dissed the Sonic Impact as not being stylish I was thinking of 'this model' (http://www.amazon.com/Sonic-Impact-15-Watt-Portable-Amplifier/dp/B9W44B). But I had forgotten about its bigger brother, which looks

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Stylish tiny amp for Touch

2011-10-19 Thread castalla
Thanks for all the advice! If you find a review for the Muse still my favourite. -- castalla 1 Touch - cheap unbranded optical cable - old Sony Microsystem - Aqustics Q10 speakers - 2 duff ears - purrfekt!

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Stylish tiny amp for Touch

2011-10-19 Thread JJZolx
There are also 15, 20 and 30W versions of the MUSE amp. There seems to be more info out there about the M20. Do a Googld search for: MUSE M20 EX TA2020 http://www.amazon.co.uk/TA2020-T-Amp-Stereo-Amplifier-20WX2/dp/B005JYTREM/ref=sr_1_21?ie=UTF8m=AIXVJTKQJ373Es=genericqid=1319067919sr=1-21 And

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Stylish tiny amp for Touch

2011-10-19 Thread RonM
JJZolx;664275 Wrote: How about this one? I wouldn't want an amp without a volume control. My first thought, too. On the other hand, if you are using a Squeezebox product you can manage volume through that system. It's not clear why two pre-amps is a desirable thing. The Sumoh is being