Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2013-01-17 Thread ralphpnj
SoftwireEngineer wrote: Sarcasm noted. I am a software engineer. The points I mentioned have valid science engg behind them. For eg. Vibration affect the crystal/oscillator there by directly contributing to Jitter. Let me know where you have a problem with it. My point is - do we all have

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2013-01-17 Thread TheOctavist
jh901 wrote: You lost me there, Ralph. Where exactly did I comment on your audio system? No one must spend $90,000 on a car either, but how many of us believe that a Camry is pretty much the same thing? I would challenge Ralph to swap in a dCS Puccini or a Playback Designs MPS-5.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2013-01-17 Thread TheOctavist
jh901 wrote: The formula for hearing recorded music at its very best is: - Great electronics throughout the chain (no weak links) driving great speakers - Position speakers and listening position with little or no compromise (start at the thirds) - clean the electricity with a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2013-01-17 Thread SoftwireEngineer
ralphpnj wrote: Thank you and I didn't mean to offend I just wanted to level the playing field, so to speak. Regarding your and the audiophile community's fixation with jitter here's what I just don't understand - you and everyone can't hear it or at least can't jitter at the levels being

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2013-01-17 Thread SoftwireEngineer
jh901 wrote: http://www.barrydiamentaudio.com/vibration.htm You will very likely find the link useful. Enjoy and please give Barry's advice a try and get back to us. I have tried this before. But I feel after I put every shelf on my rack on spikes (and the shelf itself is spiked

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2013-01-17 Thread pippin
Chuck Norris can hear jitter. Nuff said about it. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96407

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2013-01-17 Thread ralphpnj
SoftwireEngineer wrote: Ralph - the term audible is subjective. I agree, I am sort of obsessed with jitter. But I have not spent much on this issue and probably lesser than you. I buy things used and sell them if I dont hear a difference I sell them without much loss. Music is about

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2013-01-17 Thread ralphpnj
pippin wrote: Chuck Norris can hear jitter. Nuff said about it. Chuck Norris gives me the jitters! ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Blind Testing Strikes Again

2013-01-17 Thread DaveWr
garym wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/16/dining/american-malted-whiskeys-win-acclaim.html?hp_r=0 [...] until last month, when a single-malt whiskey from the Balcones Distillery in Waco bested nine others, including storied Scottish names like the Balvenie and the Macallan, in a blind

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2013-01-17 Thread TheOctavist
if you want to make a difference to the sound of your system...the only things that matter. quality of the material being played. speaker selection transparency of electronics input=output (this is trivial to acheive, and even the lowliest budget gear does) room acoustics(this is the most

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2013-01-17 Thread Mnyb
The audiophiles surely invest much emotionally towards the equipment ? Almost on the verge of anthropomorphize it . Giving it emotionally loaded attributes , the musicality and feelings comes from the performers and possible thier instruments ( really the instrument maker ) . Hifi is the exact

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2013-01-17 Thread SBGK
So do you guys think that all bit perfect players sound the same ? There used to be threads on here discussing the best sounding version of LMS (squeezeserver), how could LMS have sounded different when it is bit perfect or did you guys never hear any differences ? Think you have all swallowed

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2013-01-17 Thread ralphpnj
SBGK wrote: So do you guys think that all bit perfect players sound the same ? There used to be threads on here discussing the best sounding version of LMS (squeezeserver), how could LMS have sounded different when it is bit perfect or did you guys never hear any differences ? Think

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2013-01-17 Thread garym
SBGK wrote: There used to be threads on here discussing the best sounding version of LMS (squeezeserver), how could LMS have sounded different when it is bit perfect or did you guys never hear any differences ? Weren't these threads mostly populated with your posts with some sort of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2013-01-17 Thread SoftwireEngineer
ralphpnj wrote: This may be stating the obvious but both the TACT and the Panasonic that you speak of contain internal DACs and preamps, it's just that both of them do not require separate external DACs and preamps. So from a minimalist perspective these units better than separate components

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2013-01-17 Thread garym
SoftwireEngineer wrote: Ralph, I know the technology behind these (I am a EE/CS major). You are misinformed about the Panny and TACT. Jitter is not a silly thing. It is the main thing in digital playback. I agree that jitter is real. I'm not an engineer, but the folks that I know that

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2013-01-17 Thread ralphpnj
SoftwireEngineer wrote: Ralph, I know the technology behind these (I am a EE/CS major). You are misinformed about the Panny and TACT. Jitter is not a silly thing. It is the main thing in digital playback. Please explain exactly how I am misinformed about the Panasonic and the Tact. I am

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2013-01-17 Thread SoftwireEngineer
Ralph, your Transporter, I think, is pretty good jitter wise. Have you compared the streaming performance vs connecting a digital out of a DVD player to it ? SoftwireEngineer's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2013-01-17 Thread SoftwireEngineer
garym wrote: I agree that jitter is real. I'm not an engineer, but the folks that I know that understand the technology behind digital jitter problems have pointed out numerous times that there is literally no evidence that human beings can detect the audio effect of jitter in any modern

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Blind Testing Strikes Again

2013-01-17 Thread RonM
garym wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/16/dining/american-malted-whiskeys-win-acclaim.html?hp_r=0 [...] until last month, when a single-malt whiskey from the Balcones Distillery in Waco bested nine others, including storied Scottish names like the Balvenie and the Macallan, in a blind