Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Has the vinyl revival gone too far? - Interesting perspective...

2013-03-31 Thread ralphpnj
Archimago wrote: > Interesting commentary of the whole vinyl phenomenon from someone with > some background from the looks of it: > http://www.avclub.com/articles/has-the-vinyl-revival-gone-too-far,93610/ > > Interesting comment about sound quality: > "Owning a decent turntable does not turn you

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Has the vinyl revival gone too far? - Interesting perspective...

2013-03-31 Thread darrenyeats
Julf wrote: > Unfortunately they seem to be subscriber-only. But the results seem to > be typical. Here are some other ones: > > 'hi-fi world: cartridge tests' > (http://www.hi-fiworld.co.uk/vinyl-lp/70-tests/103-cartridge-tests.html?showall=1). Measuring? Vinyl replay? Ooh, you don't want to b

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Has the vinyl revival gone too far? - Interesting perspective...

2013-03-31 Thread Julf
Archimago wrote: > Are those measurements on line? Would love to have a look... Unfortunately they seem to be subscriber-only. But the results seem to be typical. Here are some other ones: 'hi-fi world: cartridge tests' (http://www.hi-fiworld.co.uk/vinyl-lp/70-tests/103-cartridge-tests.html?sho

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Magico S1

2013-03-31 Thread Julf
mlsstl wrote: > even the much vaunted LP format doesn't really capture what was on the > original tape Indeed. The LP is the equivalent of maybe 12 bits @ 44.1 kHz on a good day, with significant harmonic distortion and wow/flutter. A really good tape can get close to 16/44.1, or almost CD quali

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Differences between digital sources

2013-03-31 Thread Archimago
darrenyeats wrote: > I don't follow this conversation. The pre-ringing in modern DACs is > really really tiny. You're saying you can hear this? > Darren > > Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using Tapatalk 2 No, I don't think he's claiming this... It was just a hypothesis and one which I agree i

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Has the vinyl revival gone too far? - Interesting perspective...

2013-03-31 Thread Archimago
Julf wrote: > Agree. I was just reading the review of a pretty high-end pick-up > cartridge that the reviewer really praised - but the review actually > included measurements as well. Almost brickwall-like drop at 20 kHz, up > to 3% harmonic distortion... Ouch! Are those measurements on line? W

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Magico S1

2013-03-31 Thread mlsstl
jh901 wrote: > Perhaps you are looking for a singular sound, but the goal is to hear > the artist's intent- that is, what's captured on the magnetic tape. For > Tull, both Aqualung and Thick As a Brick are best heard (for digital) on > the original US DADC pressings with the VK catalog prefix.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Differences between digital sources

2013-03-31 Thread RonM
Julf wrote: > Absolutely. In a couple of blind listening tests I have used a control > track that is 1 dB louder than the others. It usually comes out as the > winner, even if it is lower resolution than some of the other tracks. Quite aside from the issue of confabulating volume with other fact

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Differences between digital sources

2013-03-31 Thread Julf
mlsstl wrote: > As a somewhat different view, over the years I've noticed sometimes > people assign convoluted or interesting descriptions and explanations to > what they hear. For example, researchers have known for decades that a > slight difference in volume doesn't come off as one source bein

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Magico S1

2013-03-31 Thread jh901
mlsstl wrote: > > > I checked out some 70s material - Jeff Beck, Jethro Tull, Moody Blues > and the like - and it was quite fashionable to make the drums sound like > a wet blanket had been thrown over the drummer. > > Regardless of decade, none of the problems noted are fixable by > remaster

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Differences between digital sources

2013-03-31 Thread mlsstl
As a somewhat different view, over the years I've noticed sometimes people assign convoluted or interesting descriptions and explanations to what they hear. For example, researchers have known for decades that a slight difference in volume doesn't come off as one source being louder, but rather cl

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Differences between digital sources

2013-03-31 Thread darrenyeats
I don't follow this conversation. The pre-ringing in modern DACs is really really tiny. You're saying you can hear this? Darren Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using Tapatalk 2 darrenyeats's Profile: http://forums.slimdev

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Has the vinyl revival gone too far? - Interesting perspective...

2013-03-31 Thread Julf
Archimago wrote: > IMO, good to see an article with a rational perspective. Agree. I was just reading the review of a pretty high-end pick-up cartridge that the reviewer really praised - but the review actually included measurements as well. Almost brickwall-like drop at 20 kHz, up to 3% harmoni

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Differences between digital sources

2013-03-31 Thread Quad
Wombat wrote: > To be honest i really have a problem finding a reasonable reason for a > beahviour that creates such an effect described. There comes me some > tape pre-echo to mind you could hear back in the good old days :) Me neither, I can't find a reasonable reason. I don't like that. Of c