Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Enormous file sizes

2014-10-09 Thread probedb
Drop them into fb2k or something similar and have a look. I hadn't noticed mp3tag even showing sample rate etc but I use it for tagging. As jj says, multi-channel is a good call, otherwise I'd say they're 24/96 files. 'last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/probedb)

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Enormous file sizes

2014-10-09 Thread garym
I just looked at some of the few hires FLAC files I have (two channel, 24/96). A 5:18 minute song is 122,525kbps. *Location 1:* VortexBox 4TB (2.3) LMS 7.8 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VBA 3TB (2.3) LMS 7.8 Touch Benchmark DAC I,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Enormous file sizes

2014-10-09 Thread Mnyb
maybe convert them to 16744.1 2ch before making mp3 of them ? is there such a thing as a 24bit mp3 ? 24/192 6ch would be very big :) Another thing to notice is that 24bit does not compress very well. 144dB sn ratio lets assume a good recording with about 90dB sn/ratio (would expect something

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Enormous file sizes

2014-10-09 Thread dafiend
Mnyb wrote: is there such a thing as a 24bit mp3 ? No. There's also no such thing as 16 bit MP3. Internally, MP3s use 32-bit float. With a WAV, the bit depth tells you something about the number of values a sample in the time domain can take. If understand correctly, MP3s store audio as

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Enormous file sizes

2014-10-09 Thread probedb
dafiend wrote: No. There's also no such thing as 16 bit MP3. Internally, MP3s use 32-bit float. With a WAV, the bit depth tells you something about the number of values a sample in the time domain can take. If understand correctly, MP3s store audio as samples in the frequency domain. And

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Enormous file sizes

2014-10-09 Thread JJZolx
probedb wrote: You're right they're 32-bit float so nope, they have no bit depth in the sense that PCM data does :) Mp3s also have a maximum sampling rate of 48 kHz, so a hi-res FLAC wouldn't explain the large size of the transcoded Mp3. For example, I have a 24/96 version of Clapton's -Slow

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Enormous file sizes

2014-10-09 Thread Julf
JJZolx wrote: For example, I have a 24/96 version of Clapton's -Slow Hand-, and the Lame Mp3 transcoding of it is almost identical in size to the Mp3 transcoding of the standard 16/44.1 CD. Which makes sense, as mp3 is based on what the human ear can hear... To try to judge the real from

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Enormous file sizes

2014-10-09 Thread RonM
I'll check things tonight, but the native sampling is 44.1, as received by me. I had assumed higher before looking and used dBp to resample to 44.1 (thinking I had 192 or 96). The resampled filesize was essentially the same, no surprise. There is no mention on the MMW website suggesting that

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anomalies in Beck's Morning Phase...

2014-10-09 Thread Archimago
Wombat wrote: Thanks again Archimago for funny pictures! One thing that drowns in this talk a bit is how the practise of selling these releases in PCM and DSD is. There is NO explanation about what is the real material delivered by the label to Acousticsounds. Imagine they only convert the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Enormous file sizes

2014-10-09 Thread jfo
Ron, I went to the MMW site to download the new CD but it only shows as available in MP3. Where did you find it in 16/44.1? http://medeskimartinandwood.shop.musictoday.com/Product.aspx?cp=124_13148pc=MWDD15 jfo's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Enormous file sizes

2014-10-09 Thread RonM
jfo wrote: Ron, I went to the site to download the new MSMW CD but it only shows as available in MP3. Where did you find it in 16/44.1? http://medeskimartinandwood.shop.musictoday.com/Product.aspx?cp=124_13148pc=MWDD15 Or were you referring to the MMW CD 20 Yes, very strange. It had a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anomalies in Beck's Morning Phase...

2014-10-09 Thread ralphpnj
Archimago wrote: Given that Mutations came out in 1998, is a multitrack studio recording, it's assured that we're dealing with a PCM recording unlikely 24/192 back then. So your concerns about the hi-res provenance is definitely understandable for them selling a 24/192 copy... I certainly