Yes thats it if the output of the quipment does not change ( they
electrical output and the soundwaves are the same ) and you still
experience a difference, you are forced to find the explanation
somewhere else :)
Main hifi:
netchord wrote:
i'd rather just listen to the music and enjoy a glass of wine.
That's ok, we're fine with that.
But what we're not fine with is you coming here and stating that your
(utterly unscientific) experience demonstrates that cables do change
character over time.
Theory predicts they
RonM wrote:
He wasn't suggesting you did. What he WAS suggesting is that the mind
is a flexible thing, and that it's easy to convince ourselves of things
that have no objective reality.
It's why systematic observation using controlled methodologies is so
very important.
i'd rather just
netchord wrote:
didn't move the speakers.
He wasn't suggesting you did. What he WAS suggesting is that the mind
is a flexible thing, and that it's easy to convince ourselves of things
that have no objective reality.
It's why systematic observation using controlled methodologies is so
very
netchord wrote:
so yes, cable does change over time; whether that's burn in or some
other term i can't say.
It's been my experience that perception changes over timecables
remain constant.
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interesting experience recently. i moved my system around, and needed
longer speaker cables (25'). I had been using Ocos, an 8' pair, and
liked it, but it's no longer available. i also needed something that
was relatively small in diameter so i could run it either under my rug,
or run it under
philippe_44 wrote:
$700 for a USB cable ... I guess I'm going to start a new business :)
Seriously, it is amazing to see that people can write such non-sense.
Well, at least it is not as bad as some miracle medecine that can
really hurt
The USB cable is no use unless you also buy the audio
Archimago wrote:
In fact, in trying to think about the impact the Diamond USB cable was
having on the music, the best analogy I could come up with was that
regular USB cables give you something akin to a high-quality photograph
of a sculptural object, whereas the Diamond USB cable enables
MichaelJ wrote:
It's been my experience that perception changes over timecables
remain constant.
perception burn in- interesting concept.
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netchord wrote:
perception burn in- interesting concept.
Yes if you move speakers or move to another house, it sounds radically
different for while until you get used to it .
That said I've had bad and good rooms , the bad ones never sounded
really good regardless off time to settle for me or
So what actually changes in the copper to alter (your) sound in speaker
cable? Do the electrons age? Electrons change course? Electrons
changing their orbit? Electrons reproducing? Maybe the great grand
children of the original electrons are better at moving
differently/faster? ;)
netchord wrote:
...
two weeks in, and it still sounded broken, and the right speaker sounded
much louder, with the image skewed to that side as well. granted, that
speaker is in a corner, so you'd expect some emphasis on that speaker,
but i'd never heard anything quite like this. i
While I do hear differences between speaker cables, I've never heard
this break-in phenomenon. I've read that it is due to changes in the
dielectric properties of the insulation, but I've never seen a reference
to the physics or electrical engineering literature.
Daverz wrote:
While I do hear differences between speaker cables, I've never heard
this break-in phenomenon. I've read that it is due to changes in the
dielectric properties of the insulation, but I've never seen a reference
to the physics or electrical engineering literature.
You would
netchord wrote:
so yes, cable does change over time
The only thing you have established is that you believe cable does
change over time, not that they actually do. There's a fundamental
difference to those two things.
If you're content with your beliefs, by all means, no reason for you to
make
Archimago wrote:
Interesting anecdote and I'm glad for you that eventually things sound
as it should again.
My concern is that you switched the polarity of ONE speaker and center
image IMPROVED running out of phase like this!? And you were somehow
able to listen to music while running the
cliveb wrote:
That's ok, we're fine with that.
But what we're not fine with is you coming here and stating that your
(utterly unscientific) experience demonstrates that cables do change
character over time.
Theory predicts they won't, proper experiments show they don't, and well
Mnyb wrote:
Yes if you move speakers or move to another house, it sounds radically
different for while until you get used to it .
That said I've had bad and good rooms , the bad ones never sounded
really good regardless off time to settle for me or the equipment .
didn't move the speakers.
MichaelJ wrote:
It's been my experience that perception changes over timecables
remain constant.
Being a signal processing engineer, I'd really like to understand the
physics at play in cable burn-in when they are so far away from any of
their limit (I don't think we are counting
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