Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO

2019-10-16 Thread iwalker
Fizbin wrote: > I used to be a "measurements is everything" kind of person. Then I > started listening to some of the best measured DAC's on Audio Science > Review and I was surprised to not only hear level matched differences > with bass/treble, etc, but also soundstage as well. The RME ADI-2

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO

2019-10-16 Thread iwalker
Julf wrote: > To the same input on the DAC? > > Yes > > > The jitter from a Touch is below audible levels. That may be true. I make no claims to the contrary, although some research indicates that very low levels of jitter can affect sound quality; I simply enjoy the combination of TP and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO

2019-10-16 Thread sgmlaw
Julf wrote: > In what way? > > > > In what way would a $4,000 DAC be audibly better than a $250-500 DAC? I think I gave you a clue why. And I think I also identified specifically where in the TP corners were cut. If you connect the dots, the answer should be obvious.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO

2019-10-16 Thread Fizbin
I used to be a "measurements is everything" kind of person. Then I started listening to some of the best measured DAC's on Audio Science Review and I was surprised to not only hear level matched differences with bass/treble, etc, but also soundstage as well. The RME ADI-2 DAC/PRO for example has

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO

2019-10-16 Thread Julf
iwalker wrote: > I have no idea! I expected the Touch and TP to produce identical results > when their digital outputs were connected to the same DAC. > They certainly don't and I can very easily tell the difference. To the same input on the DAC? > Transformer coupled outputs? Lower jitter? I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO

2019-10-16 Thread iwalker
cfuttrup wrote: > Measurements isn't everything, but here's some independent measurements > of the Yggdrasil: > > https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/measurements-and-review-of-schiit-yggdrasil-dac.2358/ > > Best regards, > Claus Thanks Claus. I have seen that review.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO

2019-10-16 Thread iwalker
Julf wrote: > What actual properties of the digital output of the TP do you think > would be better? I have no idea! I expected the Touch and TP to produce identical results when their digital outputs were connected to the same DAC. They certainly don't and I can very easily tell the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO

2019-10-16 Thread cfuttrup
iwalker wrote: > I recently bought a Schiit Yggdrasil DAC ( approx £2200) having > auditioned several other DACs ranging in price from £500 to £3000, > none of which sounded any better than the TP's own DAC. > > The combination of the TP and the Schiit DAC is, to my ears, > outstanding. I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO

2019-10-16 Thread Julf
iwalker wrote: > This suggests that the digital output stage of the TP has been better > engineered than the Touch, which is hardly a surprise give the price > differential! What actual properties of the digital output of the TP do you think would be better? "To try to judge the real from

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO

2019-10-16 Thread iwalker
Fizbin wrote: > The mid range/bass of the Transporter blows away the Touch. > > > > A TP with a $2000 DAC can be a downgrade as well. The RME ADI-2 PRO, the > Benchmark DAC3 pale by comparison. I have both a Touch and a TP ( as well as a Squeezebox Classic and Boom ...) For many years I