Wombat wrote:
> We can only speculate how the original was mixed exactly. I believe in
> 1998 there surely where made mastertapes out of the mix with extended HF
> content.
> I am also pretty sure vendors like AS get a capture of that tape
> delivered. What i highly doubt is that these captures a
Wombat wrote:
> We can only speculate how the original was mixed exactly. I believe in
> 1998 there surely where made mastertapes out of the mix with extended HF
> content.
> I am also pretty sure vendors like AS get a capture of that tape
> delivered. What i highly doubt is that these captures a
Archimago wrote:
> Given that Mutations came out in 1998, is a multitrack studio recording,
> it's assured that we're dealing with a PCM recording unlikely 24/192
> back then. So your concerns about the hi-res provenance is definitely
> understandable for them selling a 24/192 copy... I certainly
Archimago wrote:
> Given that Mutations came out in 1998, is a multitrack studio recording,
> it's assured that we're dealing with a PCM recording unlikely 24/192
> back then. So your concerns about the hi-res provenance is definitely
> understandable for them selling a 24/192 copy... I certainly
Wombat wrote:
> Thanks again Archimago for funny pictures!
> One thing that drowns in this talk a bit is how the practise of selling
> these releases in PCM and DSD is. There is NO explanation about what is
> the real material delivered by the label to Acousticsounds.
> Imagine they only convert
callesoroe wrote:
> I fully aware of that.. But it can do something to the signal send
> to your DAC. If replay gain is off, the "near clipping" indicator(on my
> Tact) lights up all the time. It does not when you turn it Down.
> What I mean by "just a number" is that a high DR number is NOT
ralphpnj wrote:
> Turning down the volume on a dynamically compressed recording DOES NOT
> remove the clipping produced in the compression process so it is not
> "just a number".
I fully aware of that.. But it can do something to the signal send
to your DAC. If replay gain is off, the "near
ralphpnj wrote:
> Turning down the volume on a dynamically compressed recording DOES NOT
> remove the clipping produced in the compression process so it is not
> "just a number".
+1.
Some oversampling DACs lack "DSP headroom" and can create some extra
unnecessary distortion when they encounter b
Thanks again Archimago for funny pictures!
One thing that drowns in this talk a bit is how the practise of selling
these releases in PCM and DSD is. There is NO explanation about what is
the real material delivered by the label to Acousticsounds.
Imagine they only convert the PCM to DSD with somet
callesoroe wrote:
> The album is very loud mixed. But I turn on replay gain, and external
> streaming from Wimp-hifi is set to -7 .
> And while this is 16 bit it does not affect soundquality, as sb is
> working as a 24 bit system. Most important with this is that you prevent
> clipping comming to
Daverz wrote:
> Thought he was better with the Yardbirds anyway.
This is NOT Jeff Beck ;)
Callesoroe
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Archimago wrote:
> Good points folks. Ultimately it is about being able to enjoy the final
> product.
>
> However, speaking of "final product", let's go back to the item about
> Beck's "Mutations" album. A blog reader sent me copies of one of the
> tracks "Nobody's Fault But My Own":
>
> DR11 P
Good points folks. Ultimately it is about being able to enjoy the final
product.
However, speaking of "final product", let's go back to the item about
Beck's "Mutations" album. A blog reader sent me copies of one of the
tracks "Nobody's Fault But My Own":
DR11 Promo:
16466
DR7 CD:
16467
It's c
ralphpnj wrote:
> ... and is enjoying the music.
*like*. Most vital and important.
...pablo
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callesoroe wrote:
> Album sounds awsome with Wimp-hifi FLAC streaming :)
Glad to see that at least someone isn't obsessing over the sound, which
they find "awesome", and is enjoying the music.
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Archimago wrote:
> Thanks for the tip folks!
>
> It appears that there's more of an issue with "Morning Phase" than I
> originally thought beyond DR6!
>
> 'Anomalies In Beck's \"Morning Phase\" (HDTracks 24/96)'
> (http://archimago.blogspot.ca/2014/03/follow-up-anomalies-in-becks-morning.html)
pablolie wrote:
> Writers are no different than people. They *always* have an opinion,
> it's only in the best case when they make an honest effort to dig up
> facts reflecting both sides, and proceed to explain how they form their
> opinion. They may be utterly ignorant or biased on the issue th
ralphpnj wrote:
> ...
>
> What if the "people" are just ordinary people, such as friends or
> relatives, but paid reviewers of audio equipment spouting off something
> that runs completely counter to proven scientific facts? And the sole
> purpose of their writing is to instill FUD (fear, uncert
pablolie wrote:
> .. She winced as the cable bit deeper into her flesh. He seethed "You
> stupid cow, keep still behind the stereo rack and switch the XLR
> connectors without making such a fuss. It's impossible to conduct an A-B
> test with you! .."
>
> I am a bit amused that the topic quickly
pablolie wrote:
>
>
> Typically I say, let people do what they do and feed their own
> psycho-acoustic preferences. If it makes them happy, let 'em stack up
> 100ks worth of equipment and some voodoo unobtanium-enriched
> super-conductor cabling and hey, it's no beef of mine. People ought to
>
.. She winced as the cable bit deeper into her flesh. He seethed "You
stupid cow, keep still behind the stereo rack and switch the XLR
connectors without making such a fuss. It's impossible to conduct an A-B
test with you! .."
I am a bit amused that the topic quickly turned into universal
condemn
Oi. Sadly they didn't even bother to hunt down the 'promo' from the look
of these DR numbers. Of course it'd be interesting to hear if the promo
actually did sound better if anyone has a copy!
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audiophile blog.
Archimago wrote:
> That 'promo' version with DR11 looks interesting.
>
> I wonder what it would take in terms of licensing for an audiophile
> outfit like Acoustic Sounds to get that version instead to sell...
That question has a super easy answer: just have one of the many clowns
who edit and
Archimago wrote:
> BTW: looks like the single reviewer liked the soundstage on the DSD
> version :-) - "The soundstage is the deepest I've ever heard on any
> recording I've tried. "
Like ralphpnj already suspected! The music must have been purified on
its way from PCM to DSD
Transporter (mod
Wombat wrote:
> Beck and business fellows seems to pull all excisting registers. Must be
> well fitting his profit-oriented believe system.
> I don't find his music anything special but stumbled across that weird
> release.
> http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list?artist=beck&album=mutations
> ht
ralphpnj wrote:
> There is one simple fix for HDTracks to resolve this whole mess:
>
> HDTracks should just convert the 24/96 PCM tracks to DSD!
>
> Once everything is convert to DSD is it, by default, Audiophile quality
> - regardless of what any stupid graphs might show :)
Beck and business
Julf wrote:
> Well, 30 years ago would have been "Brothers in Arms" by Dire Straits.
> Recorded in digital - hasn't stopped us from getting a bunch of
> re-issues and "remasters". :)
I think some judicious digital filtering could make early digital more
listenable. Remastering from the mix tape
Archimago wrote:
> 40 years ago would have been about "Dark Side Of The Moon" (1973).
>
> Clearly those old tapes have provided us with excellent quality
> remasters over the years. In time, if "Morning Phase" ever were to be
> reissued, I wonder just how much improvement could be had from those
Daverz wrote:
> Got my RBCD copy. It is very compressed sounding to my ears.
> Everything is at the same volume level. Other words that come to mind
> are flat, processed, and hashy. All this works against the ambience
> that the music seems to be trying to create. It's nice music, but I
> t
Got my RBCD copy. It is very compressed sounding to my ears.
Everything is at the same volume level. Other words that come to mind
are flat, processed, and hashy. All this works against the ambience
that the music seemts to be trying to create. It's nice music, but I
think a release like this
Daverz wrote:
> From what I've read up to now, the RBCD should be perfectly adequate. I
> can pay HDTracks to get an upsampled version, or I can have my DAC do it
> for me. Just ordered the RBCD from Amazon Marketplace. Under $10,
> including shipping.
To paraphrase: From what I've read up to
>From what I've read up to now, the RBCD should be perfectly adequate. I
can pay HDTracks to get an upsampled version, or I can have my DAC do it
for me. Just ordered the RBCD from Amazon Marketplace. Under $10,
including shipping.
-
ralphpnj wrote:
>
> The moral of this story is quite simple: if there is no penalty for
> lying then why bother to tell the truth.
*That* is the truth.
What a joke... If Ludwig is to be believed that he mixed everything in
24/96, then he must have received *ALL* MP3-encoded masters for those 2
There's a new clown in town:
http://www.analogplanet.com/content/stop-nonsense-bob-ludwig-true-numbers-behind-becks-imorning-phasei-album
Seems that once the bullets start flying everyone just circles the
wagons. I guess Ludwig's willingness to stretch the truth just means
that the clowns at the
I have some other view meanwhile. I doubt it is bad what happened here.
Beck may have collected this music over a while and gave it for
mastering.
I have no doubt this material is mixed at 24/96 and so this is a valid
"Studio Master" - people ask for it, people get it.
I think there are much big
Archimago wrote:
> Oi. Don't you dare forget COOKIE. Never forget COOKIE.
>
> ;)
mea culpa!
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ralphpnj wrote:
> I believe that you almost have it but there are still two things
> missing:
>
> First you must copy the PCM files onto a Mac Mini then you must run it
> through a *TUBE* DAC with asynchronous USB, then ANALOGUE TAPE, then
> ANALOGUE CONSOLE, then a Meitner DSD ADC and then back
Thought he was better with the Yardbirds anyway.
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Archimago wrote:
> Nice one... Alas, that's not good enough.
>
> You must run it through a *TUBE* DAC, then ANALOGUE TAPE, then ANALOGUE
> CONSOLE, then a Meitner DSD ADC. Furthermore, you must ensure that this
> is all Cardas / Nordost cabling. The process must further be supervised
> by Cookie
ralphpnj wrote:
> There is one simple fix for HDTracks to resolve this whole mess:
>
> HDTracks should just convert the 24/96 PCM tracks to DSD!
>
> Once everything is convert to DSD is it, by default, Audiophile quality
> - regardless of what any stupid graphs might show :)
Nice one... Alas,
Archimago wrote:
> Seriously, HDTracks... Do you guys ever look at these files for quality
> control purposes before declaring the album fit for high-resolution and
> charging folks $18USD? I know you claim to just sell what the label
> gives you, but isn't it a bit disingenuous to be calling muc
Yea get the CD version , I'm listening to it I do like beck ,but I have
not come to any conclusion to if/how good it is yet.
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MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP52
Thanks for the tip Wombat.
It appears that there's more of an issue with "Morning Phase" than I
originally thought beyond DR6!
http://archimago.blogspot.ca/2014/03/follow-up-anomalies-in-becks-morning.html
Sad... Really...
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