pski;624277 Wrote:
If you look through this area, you will find a very interesting video
concerning jitter, wow, and other BS as well as bit-perfect that points
out quite accurately that humans can't really resolve small differences.
It seems the preferences of the studio make way more
darrenyeats;623216 Wrote:
If I may provide a counter-anecdote. I can't hear any difference between
the Touch and an old CD player I dusted off after six years in the loft,
as transports into my Benchmark DAC1 HDR. If it's because I'm deaf, let
me count that as a blessing!
Darren
Also, I can
magiccarpetride;623495 Wrote:
It was a belated April Fool's joke! Lighten up, people;)
I actually understood that; I chuckled!
However, the degree of difference between amusing remarks and some of
the audiophile claims one reads here and elsewhere requires a
micrometer to measure, preferably
mervin_b;624272 Wrote:
There seems to be a never-end source of replies claiming bit-perfect =
bit-perfect = no possible audio differences possible.
If the bit-perfect stream is captured back to audio data, then yes,
bit-perfect would mean the data captured will be identical to the
mervin_b;624272 Wrote:
There seems to be a never-end source of replies claiming bit-perfect =
bit-perfect = no possible audio differences possible.
If the bit-perfect stream is captured back to audio data, then yes,
bit-perfect would mean the data captured will be identical to the
aspendl828;623643 Wrote:
Just bringing this slightly back on topic :-)
Has anyone had the cahnce to compare a Touch digital output with the
digital out from a Patrick Dixon SB+? Currently feeding my SB+ into a
Naim DAC with fantastic results but obviously wonder about the Touch
and
earwaxer9;624269 Wrote:
Wow! What a strange trip its been! - Given that the Touch was deemed
bit perfect by Kal at Stereophile. I would say that it cant get much
better than perfect. I think its a bit nuts to split hairs on this. The
yeoman's work rests with the DAC. Taking the SPDIF and
mervin_b;624272 Wrote:
There seems to be a never-end source of replies claiming bit-perfect =
bit-perfect = no possible audio differences possible.
If the bit-perfect stream is captured back to audio data, then yes,
bit-perfect would mean the data captured will be identical to the
Just bringing this slightly back on topic :-)
Has anyone had the cahnce to compare a Touch digital output with the
digital out from a Patrick Dixon SB+? Currently feeding my SB+ into a
Naim DAC with fantastic results but obviously wonder about the Touch
and 24/96
Cheers
Andrew
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magiccarpetride;623231 Wrote:
A counter-counter anecdote is that an acquaintance of mine claims that
he can't hear the difference between the Touch and his alarm clock.
Sort of similar how I can't hear the difference between my refrigerator
and the sound the furnace makes when it's pushing
ralphpnj;623275 Wrote:
Whatever drug you're on, I want some - please!
Wait what am I saying! This is the Audiophiles section so I guess
that rumor, hearsay, magic and general BS are all fair game. Kind of
like the climate change deniers - science just gets tossed out the
window and one
ralphpnj;623275 Wrote:
Whatever drug you're on, I want some - please!
Wait what am I saying! This is the Audiophiles section so I guess
that rumor, hearsay, magic and general BS are all fair game. Kind of
like the climate change deniers - science just gets tossed out the
window and one
magiccarpetride;623495 Wrote:
It was a belated April Fool's joke! Lighten up, people;)
MOST of us knew that Alex... :)
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On 05/04/11 18:28, magiccarpetride wrote:
It was a belated April Fool's joke! Lighten up, people;)
Ah... a joke...
Funny, it sounded just like the rest of the drivel you post. Is that all
a joke too?
R.
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magiccarpetride;623495 Wrote:
It was a belated April Fool's joke! Lighten up, people;)
Since you're not the op I can only assume that
a) you are completely full of sh*t (but I already know that :))
b) that you and the op are in cohoots, to which I say boy are we in
trouble.
Robin Bowes;623502 Wrote:
On 05/04/11 18:28, magiccarpetride wrote:
It was a belated April Fool's joke! Lighten up, people;)
Ah... a joke...
Funny, it sounded just like the rest of the drivel you post. Is that
all
a joke too?
R.
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magiccarpetride;623509 Wrote:
Thank you for your kind compliment.
No problem!
On a slightly different note, which drugs make:
a) The Transporter sound best?
b) The Touch sound best?
c) The SB3 sound best?
My answers:
Transporter - drugs which provide one with a heightened awareness and
ralphpnj;623513 Wrote:
No problem!
On a slightly different note, which drugs make:
a) The Transporter sound best?
b) The Touch sound best?
c) The SB3 sound best?
My answers:
Transporter - drugs which provide one with a heightened awareness and
sharper focus.
Touch - drugs
magiccarpetride;623518 Wrote:
Thanks for the insight. Also, don't forget to take your meds every
morning.
Why limit oneself to just the morning?
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Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels - Snatch - The Transporter -
Transporter 2 (oops) - Touch
'Last.fm'
ralphpnj;623534 Wrote:
Why limit oneself to just the morning?
That's the question you should ask your psychiatrist.
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magiccarpetride;623547 Wrote:
That's the question you should ask your psychiatrist.
Psychiatrist?!?!?
Don't you mean dealer?
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Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels - Snatch - The Transporter -
Transporter 2 (oops) - Touch
'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/jazzfann/)
ralphpnj;622960 Wrote:
+1
The truth is in the listening and listening tests all appear to confirm
that the Touch does sound better than the SB3 whether feeding an
external DAC or using the internal DAC.
I've heard that Touch sounds way worse than SB3. This is due to the
fact that Touch
magiccarpetride;623206 Wrote:
I've heard that Touch sounds way worse than SB3. This is due to the fact
that Touch comes shipped out of the factory with a buffer size at
20,000.
20,000 what ?
Goldfish ?
Peanuts ?
Anyway, don't listen to them rumours - the Touch is better sounding
than the
If I may provide a counter-anecdote. I can't hear any difference between
the Touch and an old CD player I dusted off after six years in the loft,
as transports into my Benchmark DAC1 HDR. None, nada. If it's because
I'm deaf, let me count that as a blessing!
Darren
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magiccarpetride;623206 Wrote:
I've heard that Touch sounds way worse than SB3. This is due to the fact
that Touch comes shipped out of the factory with a buffer size at
20,000.
Whats the buffer size of the SB3?
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darrenyeats;623216 Wrote:
If I may provide a counter-anecdote. I can't hear any difference between
the Touch and an old CD player I dusted off after six years in the loft,
as transports into my Benchmark DAC1 HDR. If it's because I'm deaf, let
me count that as a blessing!
Darren
A
Gazjam;623219 Wrote:
Whats the buffer size of the SB3?
Must be different than 20,000, that much is certain.
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magiccarpetride;623206 Wrote:
i've heard that touch sounds way worse than sb3. This is due to the fact
that touch comes shipped out of the factory with a buffer size at
20,000.
0/10
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You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call
Must be with britney or similar ;) some kind of music gets stale very
quickly and lose it freshness ? while somethings i own have been
buffered since the 50's
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Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621
magiccarpetride;623206 Wrote:
I've heard that Touch sounds way worse than SB3. This is due to the fact
that Touch comes shipped out of the factory with a buffer size at
20,000.
Whatever drug you're on, I want some - please!
Wait what am I saying! This is the Audiophiles section so I guess
Gazjam;623219 Wrote:
Whats the buffer size of the SB3?
That 2 had to have come from Soundcheck's mods. And its NOT a
buffer size, its a buffer time in micro seconds. At 44.1 sample rate
thats 882 samples in the buffer.
Now this is the ALSA buffer size, which the SB3 doesn't use so you
brjoon1021;622712 Wrote:
I have an SB3 so I was just wondering. If you use an outboard DAC any
advantages of one over the other as far as sound would be gone anyway,
no ?
Thx,
b
The Touch has a superior quality digital feed and sounds better into a
good DAC than an SB3. It is a better
Phil Leigh;622887 Wrote:
The Touch has a superior quality digital feed and sounds better into a
good DAC than an SB3. It is a better circuit design with less noise.
+1
The truth is in the listening and listening tests all appear to confirm
that the Touch does sound better than the SB3
I have an SB3 so I was just wondering. If you use an outboard DAC any
advantages of one over the other as far as sound would be gone anyway,
no ?
Thx,
b
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Possibly, maybe. Probably not.
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You will be getting the capability to play higher resolution files 96/24
and 88.2/24 FLAC like those HDTracks sells. If that is of interest an
improvement should be noted.
Otherwise the SB3 w/outboard DAC should sound the same.
Most find the Touch built in DAC to be quite capable, and of
Having replaced my SB3 with the Touch (both feeding a Benchmark DAC-1),
I can unequivocably say the Touch's digital output is significantly
better than the SB3... much cleaner bass in particular. Not sure why
that is, but it's pretty obvious (at least in my setup).
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main system:
As a standalone device, the Touch is a great unit. Playing files
natively to 96/24 is nice, and it sounds good AS IS.Adding an
external DAC would certainly be fun (and is supported via TOSlink, and
Coax digital connections), but I don't see it as being absolutely
necessary.
I don't think
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