[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: DAC in Pioneer Elite VSX-26TX vs. DAC in SB3

2007-01-25 Thread Mark Lanctot
Well, whether it's inferior or superior, only your ears can answer. It's very subjective and if someone were to suggest it's better or worse you would naturally hear the difference due to the placebo effect. The VSX-26TX is an Elite model I believe - it's safe to say its DAC is no slouch. Then

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: DAC in Pioneer Elite VSX-26TX vs. DAC in SB3

2007-01-25 Thread jeffmeh
Thanks for the replies. Time is at a premium, so unless someone tells me that the SB's DAC should be much better (emphasis on should), I'm not going to bother experimenting. I suspect that my sound quality will be limited by the room and WAF, anyway. Incidentally, I called Pioneer, and they

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: DAC in Pioneer Elite VSX-26TX vs. DAC in SB3

2007-01-25 Thread Eric Carroll
jeffmeh;174064 Wrote: P.S. I run the SB3 into the VSX-26TX through SPDIF, and do not enable any DSP in the receiver. I do not feel compelled to try running the SB3's DAC through analog, but if someone can tell me definitively that the SB3's DAC is considered superior, I would be willing

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: DAC in Pioneer Elite VSX-26TX vs. DAC in SB3

2007-01-25 Thread Mark Lanctot
Eric Carroll;174131 Wrote: The Pioneer takes any analog input and resamples it into the digital domain for DSP processing. So, if you go SB3 - analog - VSX you are D/A converting on the SB3 then A/D and D/A on the VSX. This adds an extra step of analog/digital conversion which is not

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: DAC in Pioneer Elite VSX-26TX vs. DAC in SB3

2007-01-25 Thread wdrazek
I run my SB into a Pioneer Elite VSX47. There is a different sound depending on whether I use the analog out or run digital into the AVR. Neither is clearly superior IMO and I go back and forth in terms of preference. -- wdrazek

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: DAC in Pioneer Elite VSX-26TX vs. DAC in SB3

2007-01-25 Thread Eric Carroll
Mark Lanctot;174149 Wrote: Note direct/bypass modes are supposed to bypass the DSP, eliminating the extra conversion. Mark, My VSX-49Txi has a DIRECT mode. The manual simply indicates it takes the shortest path. Nowhere does it say it bypasses the DAC but I assume this is what it is doing.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: DAC in Pioneer Elite VSX-26TX vs. DAC in SB3

2007-01-25 Thread Mark Lanctot
Eric Carroll;174166 Wrote: My VSX-49Txi has a DIRECT mode. The manual simply indicates it takes the shortest path. Nowhere does it say it bypasses the DAC but I assume this is what it is doing. Yeah, I've seen some of the manufacturers be kind of cagey with that feature. It could be that

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: DAC in Pioneer Elite VSX-26TX vs. DAC in SB3

2007-01-25 Thread Eric Carroll
Mark Lanctot;174179 Wrote: There are certain high-end pre/pros that digitize all the time: Lexicon and (I think) Anthem. Well the Anthem Statement D2 is my next target upgrade :-) So I just happen to have the manual right here. The D2 has a nicely named Anlg-Dir mode, which states A/D

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: DAC in Pioneer Elite VSX-26TX vs. DAC in SB3

2007-01-25 Thread Mark Lanctot
Eric Carroll;174183 Wrote: Well the Anthem Statement D2 is my next target upgrade :-) So I just happen to have the manual right here. The D2 has a nicely named Anlg-Dir mode, which states A/D conversion and Digital Signal Processing are bypassed and the preamp plays the traditional role