Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The bottleneck for the ultimate sound experience?

2007-02-27 Thread P Floding
)p(;183866 Wrote: Yes we did. And the Sb3 was only plugged in when it was its turn to be compared. Peter Then the test was good. Of course, hearing no difference does not prove there is no difference -unfortunately. But for your purposes you might as well assume there is no difference.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The bottleneck for the ultimate sound experience?

2007-02-27 Thread P Floding
ezkcdude;183860 Wrote: Right on cue, P. Now, isn't it the pot calling the kettle black just a little bit? I mean, when you tell us the differences you hear between components, we are supposed to believe your ears, right? But, along comes someone who doesn't hear a difference, with his own

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The bottleneck for the ultimate sound experience?

2007-02-27 Thread mglaudiolabs
I don't understand the problem. Why does one need to force oneself to find sonic differences between transport setups when there are obviously none? It just shows how well engineered the SB3 is and we should be happy to have saved money that can be better invested in music... -- mglaudiolabs

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The bottleneck for the ultimate sound experience?

2007-02-27 Thread P Floding
mglaudiolabs;183903 Wrote: I don't understand the problem. Why does one need to force oneself to find sonic differences between transport setups when there are obviously none? It just shows how well engineered the SB3 is and we should be happy to have saved money that can be better invested

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The bottleneck for the ultimate sound experience?

2007-02-27 Thread P Floding
)p(;183908 Wrote: A few weeks ago we compared my stock sb to a heavily modded sb into a 47labs set with their progression dac. The differences were easily noticeable. That did surprise me even more at the time. But the 47labs nos dac does not do any reclocking etc. So we were curious how it

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The bottleneck for the ultimate sound experience?

2007-02-27 Thread P Floding
)p(;183911 Wrote: I am not here to make anybody happy in that way, just to have a good conversation about a fun hobby and because I love my sb so much :) p.s. It was a shame that with the 47 labs dac we could not switch in realtime between the sources...maybe even those BIG differences

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The bottleneck for the ultimate sound experience?

2007-02-27 Thread mglaudiolabs
P Floding;183905 Wrote: Would you like to qualify that, or do you mean that all DACs and other digital-input equipment are independent of digital source quality? No, I don't doubt there are differences. But if the PLL/receiver circuits of the DAC were carefully designed and properly

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The bottleneck for the ultimate sound experience?

2007-02-27 Thread P Floding
mglaudiolabs;183914 Wrote: No, I don't doubt there are differences. But if the PLL/receiver circuits of the DAC were carefully designed and properly implemented, the differences are astonishingly small. That's a massive if! And what about ASRCs? -- P Floding No, I didn't ABX it. And I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The bottleneck for the ultimate sound experience?

2007-02-27 Thread Audiofilia
As stated in the beginning I try to maximize the performance of the already superb SB3. Thanks for many ideas and thoughts. At least I will try the following: 1. Turn off the internal volume ( if I succeed to find the link to the player settings on the slimserver skin ) as suggested

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The bottleneck for the ultimate sound experience?

2007-02-26 Thread mglaudiolabs
The SB3 is a fantastic device. I'd say it all depends on implementation and system synergy. I have personally found no differences between wireless and Ethernet as long as the buffer of the Squeezebox is full. You might want to try server sided transcoding from ALAC/FLAC WAV as opposed to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The bottleneck for the ultimate sound experience?

2007-02-26 Thread Skunk
Audiofilia;183619 Wrote: What is to your experience the ultimate difference in a direct AB comparison between 1.CD feeding directly a DAC and compared to 2.Slimserver feeding Apple lossless using Wireless LAN and SB 3 connected to the same DAC as with the CD direct? One thing to check

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The bottleneck for the ultimate sound experience?

2007-02-26 Thread opaqueice
)p(;183668 Wrote: We did a shootout yesterday using a tact s2150 digital amp feeding a pair of final 700i electrostatic speakers. We fed the tact with a Teac highly modded transport, a North Star Transport, A pc with a good soundcard and the stock SB with stock powersupply. Also we

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The bottleneck for the ultimate sound experience?

2007-02-26 Thread johann
How did you manage to level match all sources perfect as well as getting them to play completely in sync? Cheers, /Johan -- johann johann's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10177 View this

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The bottleneck for the ultimate sound experience?

2007-02-26 Thread ezkcdude
)p(;183668 Wrote: We did a shootout yesterday using a tact s2150 digital amp feeding a pair of final 700i electrostatic speakers. We fed the tact with a Teac highly modded transport, a North Star Transport, A pc with a good soundcard and the stock SB with stock powersupply. Also we

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The bottleneck for the ultimate sound experience?

2007-02-26 Thread 325xi
)p(;183668 Wrote: We did a shootout yesterday using a tact s2150 digital amp feeding a pair of final 700i electrostatic speakers. We fed the tact with a Teac highly modded transport, a North Star Transport, A pc with a good soundcard and the stock SB with stock powersupply. Also we

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The bottleneck for the ultimate sound experience?

2007-02-26 Thread Phil Leigh
)p(;183674 Wrote: Good question :) Last week I have heard a similar setup using a Lyngdorf tdai2200 fed by the same North Star versus my stock squeezebox. I thought I heard some small differences. Nothing I would worry about myself. But because the way we had it hooked up we were not able

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The bottleneck for the ultimate sound experience?

2007-02-26 Thread P Floding
)p(;183668 Wrote: We did a shootout yesterday using a tact s2150 digital amp feeding a pair of final 700i electrostatic speakers. We fed the tact with a Teac highly modded transport, a North Star Transport, A pc with a good soundcard and the stock SB with stock powersupply. Also we

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The bottleneck for the ultimate sound experience?

2007-02-26 Thread ezkcdude
P Floding;183847 Wrote: Unless you disconnected the unused sources the test is flawed. Unfortunately the TacT (at least some of them) is very sensitive to noise entering the system. You also need to physically unplug the SB's wall wart to check if it influences the TacT negatively. Right on

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The bottleneck for the ultimate sound experience?

2007-02-25 Thread Audiofilia
When trying to reach the final solution to be able to skip totally the normal CD transport I'm struggling with the following question: What is to your experience the ultimate difference in a direct AB comparison between 1. CD feeding directly a DAC and compared to 2. Slimserver feeding Apple