Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter next model?

2009-02-06 Thread mswlogo
Meridian has long complained that the jitter over HDMI was terrible. -- mswlogo XP Cat5 Transporter SPDIF Meridian G68 DSP6000, DSP5500HC, DSP5000 XP Cat5 SB3 SPDIF Meridian DSP5000 XP Cat5 SB3 SPDIF Meridian G91 DSP5000 'My Transporter Setup'

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter next model?

2009-02-04 Thread darrenyeats
iPhone;392423 Wrote: Darren, don't you have that backwards: iPhone, no worries, we're on the same page. That's what I meant by round about way i.e. not those things. :) Darren -- darrenyeats SB3 / Inguz - Krell KAV-300i (pre bypass) - PMC AB-1 Dell laptop - JVC UX-C30 mini system

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter next model?

2009-02-04 Thread Jeff Flowerday
I'd love to see a device capable of playing the high bit rate 5.1 audio pulled from DVD-As and Blu-Ray. HDMI is fine by me. -- Jeff Flowerday Jeff Flowerday's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter next model?

2009-02-04 Thread iPhone
Jeff Flowerday;392605 Wrote: I'd love to see a device capable of playing the high bit rate 5.1 audio pulled from DVD-As and Blu-Ray. HDMI is fine by me. Personally, I think HDMI is OK for watching TV and Movies as a one cable solution. I can even see a case for Audio because of bandwidth.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter next model?

2009-02-04 Thread Jeff Flowerday
iPhone;392715 Wrote: Personally, I think HDMI is OK for watching TV and Movies as a one cable solution. I can even see a case for Audio because of bandwidth. The real problem I have with it is that we're on our fourth revision of the standard in about as many years. I don't consider that a

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter next model?

2009-02-03 Thread michael123
Hi, I am planning to upgrade my SB3 with Transporter. There are few things that bother me, specifically if there will be next model release in half a year timeframe? What I find missing from the current model is lack of HDMI output and support of higher resolution audio, e.g. 192/24 stereo

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter next model?

2009-02-03 Thread Phil Leigh
michael123;392163 Wrote: Hi, I am planning to upgrade my SB3 with Transporter. There are few things that bother me, specifically if there will be next model release in half a year timeframe? What I find missing from the current model is lack of HDMI output and support of higher

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter next model?

2009-02-03 Thread michael123
JezA;392185 Wrote: I raised a similar question recently on this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57677 The consensus seemed to be that the Tranporter would not evolve, which seems to me a pity. I would hope that it is not a dead-end product, though with Logitech

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter next model?

2009-02-03 Thread funkstar
michael123;392163 Wrote: Was it just one-shot? Why wasn't the Transporter upgraded in years? The Transported might not have been updated since July 2006, but other than a cosmetic change to all black, the SB3 hasn't been updated since November 2005. They work well as they are so why update

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter next model?

2009-02-03 Thread ghostrider
I don't know why anyone would want to screw around with HDMI in an audio only environment. It's just another DRM enforcement technique, and it doesn't work reliably. -- ghostrider ghostrider's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter next model?

2009-02-03 Thread Phil Leigh
ghostrider;392240 Wrote: I don't know why anyone would want to screw around with HDMI in an audio only environment. It's just another DRM enforcement technique, and it doesn't work reliably. :-) exactly! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter next model?

2009-02-03 Thread Phil Leigh
michael123;392188 Wrote: I heard few people complaining about SB3 as being a bad _digital_ transport choice... and 24/48 is what driving me away from SB3, I have few 192/24 and 96/24 records.. I downsample manually these files to 48KHz, as squeeze center does not perform quite well with this

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter next model?

2009-02-03 Thread michael123
Hi yes, to my surround preamp, Audiolab 8000AP; this is the way SB3 is connected today, via digital coax. I have invested into workflow around squeeze center (e.g. Pronto automation) hence the way I see to upgrade music streaming is a step-up to Transporter. Otherwise, I would go for LINN,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter next model?

2009-02-03 Thread funkstar
ghostrider;392240 Wrote: I don't know why anyone would want to screw around with HDMI in an audio only environment. It's just another DRM enforcement technique, and it doesn't work reliably. HDMI does not require the use of HDCP, but it is part of the spec. HDMI also has a built in control

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter next model?

2009-02-03 Thread JezA
I raised a similar question recently on this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57677 The consensus seemed to be that the Tranporter would not evolve, which seems to me a pity. I would hope that it is not a dead-end product, though with Logitech making 500 people redundant

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter next model?

2009-02-03 Thread Jaco
Except that the current implementations of HDMI have much higher jitter figures than SPDIF. In the Feb 2009 edition of the Hi-fi News magazine Paul Miller measured the following jitter results for a few A/V amplifiers: Denon AVR-3803A --- SPDIF: 560psec HDMI: 3700psec Onkyo TX-NR906

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter next model?

2009-02-03 Thread funkstar
Jaco;392376 Wrote: Unfortunately the Denon and Onkyo amps were rated to sound the best, but I believe that had more to do with their amplifier sections than the jitter and pre-amplifier/processor sections. Which sais to me that everybody concerned about jitter figures should be worrying about

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter next model?

2009-02-03 Thread Pat Farrell
funkstar wrote: Which sais to me that everybody concerned about jitter figures should be worrying about something else. If an amp with 77 times the jitter of another and still sounds better, there really isn't any point in measuring jitter. I'm not an audiophile so I may be wrong. But

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter next model?

2009-02-03 Thread iPhone
darrenyeats;392393 Wrote: Mm. You're not an audiophile, so: 1. you admit you may be wrong and 2. you use logic You've just defined an audiophile in a round about way! Darren Darren, don't you have that backwards: Audiophile: 1) Will never admit they’re wrong 2) Doesn't use logic, only

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter next model?

2009-02-03 Thread darrenyeats
funkstar;392382 Wrote: I'm not an audiophile so I may be wrong. But that just seems like logic to me. Mm. You're not an audiophile, so: 1. you admit you may be wrong and 2. you use logic You've just defined an audiophile in a round about way! Darren -- darrenyeats SB3 / Inguz - Krell