Re: [aur-general] Deletion request

2011-01-21 Thread Dave Reisner
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 03:26:51AM +0100, Seblu wrote: > Hello, > > ipset4 is "out-of-date", duplicate of ipset and orphan. > > http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=34078 > > Regards, > > -- > Sébastien Luttringer > www.seblu.net I ated it. Thanks, dave

[aur-general] Deletion request

2011-01-21 Thread Seblu
Hello, ipset4 is "out-of-date", duplicate of ipset and orphan. http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=34078 Regards, -- Sébastien Luttringer www.seblu.net

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - Seblu

2011-01-21 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Ionut wrote: > On 01/21/2011 09:10 PM, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: >> Seblu wrote: >>> It looks like a trick question! >>> But if I want to be a good maintainer, I do understand the reasons. >>> >>> and **The trust does not exclude the audit.** >> >> Excuse me for asking but is there anything prevent

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - Seblu

2011-01-21 Thread Ionuț Bîru
On 01/21/2011 09:10 PM, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: Seblu wrote: It looks like a trick question! But if I want to be a good maintainer, I do understand the reasons. and **The trust does not exclude the audit.** Excuse me for asking but is there anything preventing you from moving cairo-xcb to c

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - Seblu

2011-01-21 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
Seblu wrote: > It looks like a trick question! > But if I want to be a good maintainer, I do understand the reasons. > > and **The trust does not exclude the audit.** Excuse me for asking but is there anything preventing you from moving cairo-xcb to community if you become a TU? As far as i know i

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - Seblu

2011-01-21 Thread Seblu
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Ionuț Bîru wrote: > On 01/21/2011 08:04 PM, Seblu wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Ronald van Haren >>  wrote: >> I see the point. >> I would contact cairo debian maintainers about that. To have their >> point of view. >> > > that means that you don't

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - Seblu

2011-01-21 Thread Ionuț Bîru
On 01/21/2011 08:04 PM, Seblu wrote: On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Ronald van Haren wrote: I see the point. I would contact cairo debian maintainers about that. To have their point of view. that means that you don't trust the arch maintainer judgment? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - Seblu

2011-01-21 Thread Seblu
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Ronald van Haren wrote: > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 12:41 AM, Seblu wrote: >> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Ronald van Haren wrote: > Some pointers > > - cairo-xcb is broken and unmaintained by upstream http://cgit.freedesktop.org/cairo/log/ i see several comm

Re: [aur-general] [arch-general] Please settle 'base' in 'depends' for all

2011-01-21 Thread Allan McRae
On 22/01/11 01:57, Xyne wrote: So if I wrote bindings to libalpm in Haskell (haskell-libalpm) and then created a package with a binary that used those bindings (foo), then readelf's output would not indicate libalpm? Short answer is probably not... especially if you use -Wl,--as-needed. Loo

Re: [aur-general] [arch-general] Please settle 'base' in 'depends' for all

2011-01-21 Thread Xyne
On 2011-01-22 01:29 +1000 (03:6) Allan McRae wrote: > On 22/01/11 00:43, Xyne wrote: > > Allan McRae wrote: > > > >> I pointed out that hard rules are not good. e.g. coreutils should (and > >> does) depend on glibc as it is not guaranteed that glibc is installed at > >> the time when you first i

Re: [aur-general] [arch-general] Please settle 'base' in 'depends' for all

2011-01-21 Thread Allan McRae
On 22/01/11 00:43, Xyne wrote: Allan McRae wrote: I pointed out that hard rules are not good. e.g. coreutils should (and does) depend on glibc as it is not guaranteed that glibc is installed at the time when you first install coreutils (which is likely the initial install). But there is no

Re: [aur-general] [arch-general] Please settle 'base' in 'depends' for all

2011-01-21 Thread Xyne
Allan McRae wrote: > I pointed out that hard rules are not good. e.g. coreutils should (and > does) depend on glibc as it is not guaranteed that glibc is installed at > the time when you first install coreutils (which is likely the initial > install). But there is no point putting glibc in

Re: [aur-general] Python 3

2011-01-21 Thread Matthias Männich
2011/1/21 Xyne : > I'm replying because this is tangential... why don't we specify "python3" > instead of "python" as a dep to make packages future-proof? Even if Python 4 > doesn't come out for a decade or more, it just seems that it would be > logically > consistent. Hi, this idea came up last

Re: [aur-general] [arch-general] Please settle 'base' in 'depends' for all

2011-01-21 Thread Allan McRae
On 21/01/11 22:38, Xyne wrote: If everyone were to use implicit dependencies then pacman would fail because no package would specify the required dependency. A rule that would break the system if it were followed by everyone is a bad rule. Expecting some to follow it and others not to and just ho

[aur-general] Python 3

2011-01-21 Thread Xyne
Andrea Scarpino wrote: > Hi AUR maintainers, > I did a change in the pyqt package to add Python 3 support to it and to allow > everyone to install both the Python2 and the Python3 version. > Every package now need to depends on python2-qt (or python-qt if uses Python > 3) instead of pyqt. > The

Re: [aur-general] [arch-general] Please settle 'base' in 'depends' for all

2011-01-21 Thread Xyne
Cédric Girard wrote: > It means then that if we have this (dependency are direct dependencies): > - Package A: depends=(B C) > - Package B: depends=(C) > > C should *not* be removed from the dependency array of A. I agree with this. A package should list as its dependencies any package on which

Re: [aur-general] [arch-general] Please settle 'base' in 'depends' for all

2011-01-21 Thread Xyne
Allan McRae wrote: > I think we have established the Transitive closure is impractical, so > lets exclude that. > > The "current Arch way" has the advantage of speed in dependency > resolution if B is installed, but suffers from potential breakage if C > removes D from its dependency list. >

Re: [aur-general] TU Application -Thomas Hatch: Voting period

2011-01-21 Thread Xyne
Thomas S Hatch wrote: > On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Andrea Scarpino wrote: > > > On Thursday 20 January 2011 17:16:41 Peter Lewis wrote: > > > Congratulations Tom! Welcome aboard the good ship TU! > > We was waiting Xyne here, anyway your accounts on AUR/BBS/Flyspray are > > updated > > sin