Re: [aur-general] Are AUR VCS packages that depend on AUR VCS packages from other projects a good idea and who should decide on that ?

2019-05-03 Thread Bruno Pagani via aur-general
Le 03/05/2019 à 18:29, Eli Schwartz via aur-general a écrit : > On 5/3/19 11:44 AM, Bruno Pagani wrote: >> I still think that you would get a better user experience even for this >> case by telling the users explicitely that this depends on llvm-git. >> Because else, people would install mesa-git

Re: [aur-general] Are AUR VCS packages that depend on AUR VCS packages from other projects a good idea and who should decide on that ?

2019-05-03 Thread Eli Schwartz via aur-general
On 5/3/19 11:44 AM, Bruno Pagani wrote: > I still think that you would get a better user experience even for this > case by telling the users explicitely that this depends on llvm-git. > Because else, people would install mesa-git once, which will pull > llvm-git as a dependency and build it for

Re: [aur-general] Are AUR VCS packages that depend on AUR VCS packages from other projects a good idea and who should decide on that ?

2019-05-03 Thread Bruno Pagani via aur-general
Le 03/05/2019 à 17:32, Eli Schwartz a écrit : > On 5/3/19 11:25 AM, Bruno Pagani wrote: >> Yes, and he can solves that by *pinning a comment telling so*. ;) > Pinning a comment telling people how to get the default expected User > Experience in a non-default way, sucks. Not “the default”. LW’s

Re: [aur-general] Are AUR VCS packages that depend on AUR VCS packages from other projects a good idea and who should decide on that ?

2019-05-03 Thread Doug Newgard via aur-general
On Fri, 3 May 2019 11:32:57 -0400 Eli Schwartz via aur-general wrote: > On 5/3/19 11:25 AM, Bruno Pagani wrote: > > Yes, and he can solves that by *pinning a comment telling so*. ;) > > Pinning a comment telling people how to get the default expected User > Experience in a non-default way,

Re: [aur-general] Are AUR VCS packages that depend on AUR VCS packages from other projects a good idea and who should decide on that ?

2019-05-03 Thread Eli Schwartz via aur-general
On 5/3/19 11:25 AM, Bruno Pagani wrote: > Yes, and he can solves that by *pinning a comment telling so*. ;) Pinning a comment telling people how to get the default expected User Experience in a non-default way, sucks. The package maintainer thinks that the average user will dislike the resulting

Re: [aur-general] Are AUR VCS packages that depend on AUR VCS packages from other projects a good idea and who should decide on that ?

2019-05-03 Thread Bruno Pagani via aur-general
Le 03/05/2019 à 17:14, Eli Schwartz via aur-general a écrit : > On 5/3/19 10:23 AM, Bruno Pagani wrote: >> Le 03/05/2019 à 16:04, Eli Schwartz via aur-general a écrit : >>> Lone Wolf's point here, is that mesa-git results in different codegen >>> and different features, if the build-time

Re: [aur-general] Are AUR VCS packages that depend on AUR VCS packages from other projects a good idea and who should decide on that ?

2019-05-03 Thread Eli Schwartz via aur-general
On 5/3/19 10:23 AM, Bruno Pagani wrote: > Le 03/05/2019 à 16:04, Eli Schwartz via aur-general a écrit : >> Lone Wolf's point here, is that mesa-git results in different codegen >> and different features, if the build-time compilation environment is >> llvm-git. > > Yes, so say so in a pinned

Re: [aur-general] Are AUR VCS packages that depend on AUR VCS packages from other projects a good idea and who should decide on that ?

2019-05-03 Thread Morten Linderud via aur-general
On Fri, May 03, 2019 at 06:00:32PM +0300, Konstantin Gizdov wrote: > I understand we have standards and requirements and suggestions and best > practices and so on, but for the Arch User Repository - is Lone_Wolf not > allowed to make a package called >

Re: [aur-general] Are AUR VCS packages that depend on AUR VCS packages from other projects a good idea and who should decide on that ?

2019-05-03 Thread Konstantin Gizdov
On 03/05/2019 17:23, Bruno Pagani via aur-general wrote: > Le 03/05/2019 à 16:04, Eli Schwartz via aur-general a écrit : > >> Furthermore, I defy the idea that even users building it themselves >> constitute "user stupidity", because as Lone Wolf's explanation >> *explicitly* called out, it is

Re: [aur-general] Are AUR VCS packages that depend on AUR VCS packages from other projects a good idea and who should decide on that ?

2019-05-03 Thread Bruno Pagani via aur-general
Le 03/05/2019 à 16:04, Eli Schwartz via aur-general a écrit : > On 5/1/19 10:53 AM, Doug Newgard via aur-general wrote: >> On Wed, 1 May 2019 12:38:41 +0200 >> Lone_Wolf wrote: >>> Assumptions : >>> >>> mesa-git depends on llvm and llvm-libs >>> >>> AUR only has one mesa-git package >>> >>> User

Re: [aur-general] Are AUR VCS packages that depend on AUR VCS packages from other projects a good idea and who should decide on that ?

2019-05-03 Thread Doug Newgard via aur-general
On Fri, 3 May 2019 10:04:39 -0400 Eli Schwartz via aur-general wrote: > On 5/1/19 10:53 AM, Doug Newgard via aur-general wrote: > > On Wed, 1 May 2019 12:38:41 +0200 > > Lone_Wolf wrote: > >> Assumptions : > >> > >> mesa-git depends on llvm and llvm-libs > >> > >> AUR only has one mesa-git

Re: [aur-general] Are AUR VCS packages that depend on AUR VCS packages from other projects a good idea and who should decide on that ?

2019-05-03 Thread Eli Schwartz via aur-general
On 5/1/19 10:53 AM, Doug Newgard via aur-general wrote: > On Wed, 1 May 2019 12:38:41 +0200 > Lone_Wolf wrote: >> Assumptions : >> >> mesa-git depends on llvm and llvm-libs >> >> AUR only has one mesa-git package >> >> User builds in clean chroot with devtools >> >> User wants mesa feature X,

[aur-general] mesa-git / lib32-mesa-git need new maintainer

2019-05-03 Thread Lone_Wolf
Hi, Due to irreconcilable differences wrt mesa trunk packaging, I am stepping down as the maintainer of those packages. I hope someone will volunteer to take over these packages and there will be a smooth transition. The packages will keep depending on llvm trunk until I transfer