[aur-general] TU Application - György Balló - results

2012-03-14 Thread Alexander Rødseth
Hi everyone, The voting period for György Balló (City-busz) has ended and I'm pleased to welcome him as a new TU. The results are: yes: 18 no: 1 abstain: 3 total: 22 (quorum has been met) Instructions for new TUs are available at our wiki and I'll also provide him with additional info

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló - results

2012-03-14 Thread Seblu
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Alexander Rødseth rods...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, The voting period for György Balló (City-busz) has ended and I'm pleased to welcome him as a new TU. The results are: yes: 18 no: 1 abstain: 3 total: 22 (quorum has been met) Instructions for new

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló - results

2012-03-14 Thread Andrea Scarpino
On Wednesday 14 March 2012 14:06:01 Alexander Rødseth wrote: Hi everyone, The voting period for György Balló (City-busz) has ended and I'm pleased to welcome him as a new TU. The results are: yes: 18 no: 1 abstain: 3 total: 22 (quorum has been met) Instructions for new TUs are

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló - results

2012-03-14 Thread SanskritFritz
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Alexander Rødseth rods...@gmail.com wrote: The voting period for György Balló (City-busz) has ended and I'm pleased to welcome him as a new TU. Go hungarians! :) ngaba and city-busz, is there any other hungarian in the team? Congratulations, György!

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló - results

2012-03-14 Thread Massimiliano Torromeo
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:36 PM, SanskritFritz sanskritfr...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Alexander Rødseth rods...@gmail.com wrote: The voting period for György Balló (City-busz) has ended and I'm pleased to welcome him as a new TU. Go hungarians! :) ngaba and

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló - results

2012-03-14 Thread Laurent Carlier
Le 14 mars 2012 14:56, Massimiliano Torromeo massimiliano.torro...@gmail.com a écrit : On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:36 PM, SanskritFritz sanskritfr...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Alexander Rødseth rods...@gmail.com wrote: The voting period for György Balló (City-busz)

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló - results

2012-03-14 Thread Ike Devolder
Op 14-03-12 21:46, Laurent Carlier schreef: Le 14 mars 2012 14:56, Massimiliano Torromeo massimiliano.torro...@gmail.com a écrit : On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:36 PM, SanskritFritz sanskritfr...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Alexander Rødseth rods...@gmail.com wrote: The

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-03 Thread Rashif Ray Rahman
On 3 March 2012 11:38, Balló György ballog...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, thanks for the question. I looked at your AUR packages and saw that you are maintaining the unity desktop. I never used this desktop environment, but as a curiosity is it something you want to eventually bring into

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-03 Thread Karol Blazewicz
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Rashif Ray Rahman sc...@archlinux.org wrote: Is there a separate repo? Do you intend to start one otherwise? I would really like to see unity accessible for Arch users. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Unity ?

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-03 Thread Balló György
Is there a separate repo? Do you intend to start one otherwise? I would really like to see unity accessible for Arch users. Unity 2D is available in my [ayatana] repo[1] along with indicators. To provide x86_64 packages, I'll need a build server. Unity is a more difficult task, because it

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-03 Thread Ionut Biru
On 03/03/2012 04:15 PM, Rashif Ray Rahman wrote: On 3 March 2012 11:38, Balló György ballog...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, thanks for the question. I looked at your AUR packages and saw that you are maintaining the unity desktop. I never used this desktop environment, but as a curiosity is it

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-03 Thread 小龙 陈
! Xiao-long Chen Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 17:13:11 +0100 From: ballog...@gmail.com To: aur-general@archlinux.org Subject: Re: [aur-general]TU Application - György Balló Is there a separate repo? Do you intend to start one otherwise? I would really like to see unity accessible for Arch

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-03 Thread Rashif Ray Rahman
On 4 March 2012 00:12, Ionut Biru ib...@archlinux.org wrote: Unity is only a Canonical project, not a project that can be used by anyone. It's just about accessibility, so as to not deprive anyone and allow no-one to say there is no foo in Arch :D But I guess if it's that much PITA then it

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-02 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 2 Mar 2012 11:59:56 +1100 schrieb Gaetan Bisson bis...@archlinux.org: Like I said, nobody cares. Oh, you are nobody? Interesting. If you have problems reading between the lines, try growing up. Between the lines are spaces otherwise there would be other lines. I'd say, the one who

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-02 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 02 Mar 2012 00:27:39 +0100 schrieb Balló György ballog...@gmail.com: I understand Heiko's opinion and now I replaced these hackish split packages by individual packages even if it's requires more maintenance time on updates. So now users should able to install all of my packages with

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-02 Thread Hilton Medeiros
On 03/02/2012 08:17 AM, Heiko Baums wrote: Am Fri, 2 Mar 2012 11:59:56 +1100 schrieb Gaetan Bisson bis...@archlinux.org: Like I said, nobody cares. Oh, you are nobody? Interesting. If you have problems reading between the lines, try growing up. Between the lines are spaces otherwise

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-02 Thread Allan McRae
On 02/03/12 21:38, Heiko Baums wrote: Am Fri, 02 Mar 2012 00:27:39 +0100 schrieb Balló György ballog...@gmail.com: I understand Heiko's opinion and now I replaced these hackish split packages by individual packages even if it's requires more maintenance time on updates. So now users should

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-02 Thread Stéphane Gaudreault
Le 2012-03-02 06:17, Heiko Baums a écrit : Am Fri, 2 Mar 2012 11:59:56 +1100 schrieb Gaetan Bissonbis...@archlinux.org: Like I said, nobody cares. Oh, you are nobody? Interesting. If you have problems reading between the lines, try growing up. Between the lines are spaces otherwise there

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-02 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 02 Mar 2012 07:11:21 -0500 schrieb Stéphane Gaudreault steph...@archlinux.org: STOP. Heiko, you had the chance to express you opinion about this application (and you did it in a totally inappropiate way). I didn't do it in a inappropriate way. I did it in a factual way and explained

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-02 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 02 Mar 2012 22:01:59 +1000 schrieb Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org: I see what was done there... makedepends in split packages probably need to become depends when built as individual packages. @György: Let that be a lesson in being careful when making reactionary changes to

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-02 Thread Angel Velásquez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/03/12 10:06, Heiko Baums wrote: Am Fri, 02 Mar 2012 07:11:21 -0500 schrieb Stéphane Gaudreault steph...@archlinux.org: STOP. Heiko, you had the chance to express you opinion about this application (and you did it in a totally

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-02 Thread Allan McRae
On 02/03/12 23:16, Heiko Baums wrote: Am Fri, 02 Mar 2012 22:01:59 +1000 schrieb Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org: I see what was done there... makedepends in split packages probably need to become depends when built as individual packages. @György: Let that be a lesson in being careful

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-02 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 02 Mar 2012 10:22:46 -0300 schrieb Angel Velásquez an...@archlinux.org: Heiko, I've always had several discussions with you, now Gaetan, and many people seems to have disagree with your opinion. If they disagree with my opinion, they can happily explain why. I explained my concerns.

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-02 Thread Magnus Therning
This thread is kind of fun to read, from a sociological perspective :) It is however sad when one considers that all the energy put into writing these emails could have been put into either - address AUR's shortcomings when it comes to split packages, or - address the different AUR builders

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-02 Thread Allan McRae
On 02/03/12 23:40, Allan McRae wrote: On 02/03/12 23:16, Heiko Baums wrote: Am Fri, 02 Mar 2012 22:01:59 +1000 schrieb Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org: I see what was done there... makedepends in split packages probably need to become depends when built as individual packages. @György:

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-02 Thread Xyne
Allan McRae wrote: Since when it is a good packaging quality to upload packages which can't be installed? They can be installed. Or do you mean can not be installed by an AUR helper? In which case you are still wrong due to the extra dependency line. I think this point should be

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-02 Thread Xyne
Xyne wrote: Allan McRae wrote: Since when it is a good packaging quality to upload packages which can't be installed? They can be installed. Or do you mean can not be installed by an AUR helper? In which case you are still wrong due to the extra dependency line. I think

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-02 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 2 Mar 2012 18:49:47 + schrieb Xyne x...@archlinux.ca: The choice of Bash was myopic and lazy in my opinion, and something that should be reversed as far as possible, not glorified. Don't say that too loud, because Gentoo's ebuilds are principally bash, too, but Gentoo has its own

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-02 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 02 Mar 2012 23:40:55 +1000 schrieb Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org: Where is it written that you can't do that? PKGBUILDs are bash. Any valid bash is a valid PKGBUILD. So, what if I would build a package which contains an .install file with an `rm -Rf /` in its post_install()

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-02 Thread Cédric Girard
On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: Am Fri, 02 Mar 2012 23:40:55 +1000 schrieb Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org: Where is it written that you can't do that? PKGBUILDs are bash. Any valid bash is a valid PKGBUILD. So, what if I would build a package which contains an

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-02 Thread Stéphane Gaudreault
Le 2012-03-01 13:00, Balló György a écrit : Hello everybody, I'm applying to be a Trusted User. I'm a 24 years old Hungarian web developer, and I'm using Arch Linux as my main system since 2010 summer. Before that I used a Debian-based distro for one year. In my free time I like surfing on

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-02 Thread Alex Belanger
Hi, I'm also in favor of György. He is the best candidate I have seen lately and his presentation is clean. I would like someone like him around to help the community. Also, if I pay attention to the other posts, my opinion is... the AUR is a HELPER tool. It's only used as a time saver, but it

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-02 Thread Balló György
Hi, thanks for the question. I looked at your AUR packages and saw that you are maintaining the unity desktop. I never used this desktop environment, but as a curiosity is it something you want to eventually bring into [community] ? I worked a lot on making Unity and indicators usable on

[aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-01 Thread Balló György
Hello everybody, I'm applying to be a Trusted User. I'm a 24 years old Hungarian web developer, and I'm using Arch Linux as my main system since 2010 summer. Before that I used a Debian-based distro for one year. In my free time I like surfing on the net, contributing to OpenStreetMap,

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-01 Thread Ionut Biru
On 03/01/2012 08:00 PM, Balló György wrote: Hello everybody, Hey I'm applying to be a Trusted User. At last! I'm a 24 years old Hungarian web developer, and I'm using Arch Linux as my main system since 2010 summer. Before that I used a Debian-based distro for one year. In my free

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-01 Thread Angel Velásquez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/03/12 15:00, Balló György wrote: Hello everybody, I'm applying to be a Trusted User. I'm a 24 years old Hungarian web developer, and I'm using Arch Linux as my main system since 2010 summer. Before that I used a Debian-based distro for

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-01 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Thu, 01 Mar 2012 19:00:52 +0100 schrieb Balló György ballog...@gmail.com: I currently have 150 packages in AUR with a total of 5775 votes. I already maintain more than 200 packages as source packages on github[4] and as built i686 packages in my [ayatana] repo[5]. I don't want to move all

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-01 Thread Ionut Biru
On 03/01/2012 09:29 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: Am Thu, 01 Mar 2012 19:00:52 +0100 schrieb Balló György ballog...@gmail.com: I currently have 150 packages in AUR with a total of 5775 votes. I already maintain more than 200 packages as source packages on github[4] and as built i686 packages in my

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-01 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Thu, 01 Mar 2012 21:46:41 +0200 schrieb Ionut Biru ib...@archlinux.org: Most GTK2 GTK3 ports are hard to be supported in AUR since most of the time it depends on what packages a user has installed on his system and may be picked different because almost 99% of our users do not compile in

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-01 Thread Alexander Rødseth
I am his sponsor indeed, and I am proud to lure forth such a fine candidate. He has adopted packages in AUR that were moved from [community] because they were problematic orphans and we (TUs) didn't want to maintain them, then fixed them up beautifully. My impression is that he doesn't shy away

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-01 Thread Dave Reisner
On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 09:16:28PM +0100, Heiko Baums wrote: Am Thu, 01 Mar 2012 21:46:41 +0200 schrieb Ionut Biru ib...@archlinux.org: Most GTK2 GTK3 ports are hard to be supported in AUR since most of the time it depends on what packages a user has installed on his system and may be

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-01 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Thu, 1 Mar 2012 16:27:45 -0500 schrieb Dave Reisner d...@falconindy.com: Feel free to provide such PKGBUILDs and actually prove that this can be done rather than soapboxing about something that he isn't doing. It's just that simple. I guess you are kidding, aren't you? 1. I'm not

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-01 Thread Gaetan Bisson
[2012-03-01 23:35:16 +0100] Heiko Baums: I guess you are kidding, aren't you? Nobody cares what you guess. Just quit posing for an expert on everything already. -- Gaetan

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-01 Thread Peter Lewis
On Thursday 01 Mar 2012 23:35:16 Heiko Baums wrote: 4. AUR is meant for providing PKGBUILDs for other users, so that they don't need to do the same work again (writing the PKGBUILDs). Since e.g. indicator-messages can't be installed by other users - at least not with yaourt Sounds like you

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-01 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 2 Mar 2012 09:51:41 +1100 schrieb Gaetan Bisson bis...@archlinux.org: [2012-03-01 23:35:16 +0100] Heiko Baums: I guess you are kidding, aren't you? Nobody cares what you guess. Just quit posing for an expert on everything already. Are you sure that your attitude is the right

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-01 Thread Allan McRae
On 02/03/12 08:35, Heiko Baums wrote: If he wants to maintain packages then he should do it in a way that they apply to the official policies. And split packages are officially NOT supported by AUR, not even with this dirty workaround, which is fact, well known and often discussed, so I don't

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-01 Thread Balló György
I understand Heiko's opinion and now I replaced these hackish split packages by individual packages even if it's requires more maintenance time on updates. So now users should able to install all of my packages with AUR helpers, however I don't use these tools at all. I hope that AUR once will

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-01 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Thu, 01 Mar 2012 23:10:11 + schrieb Peter Lewis ple...@aur.archlinux.org: On Thursday 01 Mar 2012 23:35:16 Heiko Baums wrote: 4. AUR is meant for providing PKGBUILDs for other users, so that they don't need to do the same work again (writing the PKGBUILDs). Since e.g.

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-01 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 02 Mar 2012 09:21:33 +1000 schrieb Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org: You do realize who first came up with the workaround for adding split packages to the AUR... Because from memory it was figured out in the TU IRC channel. I don't know, because I'm not in the IRC channels. But if I

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-01 Thread Allan McRae
On 02/03/12 09:37, Heiko Baums wrote: I just see a PKGBUILD which doesn't apply to the official policies. You keep saying official policies... Where is this official policy document that says do not use the split PKGBUILD hack to upload packages to the AUR? Yes, the AUR does not support split

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-01 Thread Thomas S Hatch
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Balló György ballog...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everybody, I'm applying to be a Trusted User. I'm a 24 years old Hungarian web developer, and I'm using Arch Linux as my main system since 2010 summer. Before that I used a Debian-based distro for one year. In

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-01 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 02 Mar 2012 09:51:16 +1000 schrieb Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org: You keep saying official policies... Where is this official policy document that says do not use the split PKGBUILD hack to upload packages to the AUR? Yes, the AUR does not support split packages. But there is

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-01 Thread Gaetan Bisson
[2012-03-02 00:13:33 +0100] Heiko Baums: Are you sure that your attitude is the right one? Yes. And that comes from a dev who should know about packaging standards, policies and packaging quality. Such as quoting variables that may contain whitespace? -- Gaetan

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-01 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 2 Mar 2012 11:36:18 +1100 schrieb Gaetan Bisson bis...@archlinux.org: [2012-03-02 00:13:33 +0100] Heiko Baums: Are you sure that your attitude is the right one? Yes. Not me. And that comes from a dev who should know about packaging standards, policies and packaging quality.

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-01 Thread Balló György
Hi, which languages do you use to develop web? I mainly work with HTML/CSS, but currently I'm learning JavaScript/jQuery and PHP. -- György Balló signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-01 Thread Gaetan Bisson
[2012-03-02 01:44:02 +0100] Heiko Baums: Not me. Like I said, nobody cares. But you know what you want to say? If you have problems reading between the lines, try growing up. -- Gaetan