Re: [aur-general] Java name guideliness

2014-09-23 Thread Dave Reisner
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 01:29:44AM +0200, Marcel Korpel wrote: > On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Dave Reisner wrote: > > All the other arch packages? Really? > > > > $ pacman -Ssq | grep -Ec '[^-][0-9]+$' > > 322 > > This is not a *completely* fair search, as this resultset also > includes bin8

Re: [aur-general] Java name guideliness

2014-09-23 Thread Marcel Korpel
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Dave Reisner wrote: > All the other arch packages? Really? > > $ pacman -Ssq | grep -Ec '[^-][0-9]+$' > 322 This is not a *completely* fair search, as this resultset also includes bin86, libx264, xf86-video-i740 and v8, where the number parts are not indicating v

Re: [aur-general] Java name guideliness

2014-09-23 Thread Pablo Lezaeta Reyes
2014-09-23 17:39 GMT-03:00 Dave Reisner : > On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 05:22:52PM -0300, Pablo Lezaeta Reyes wrote: > > 2014-09-23 13:13 GMT-03:00 Marcel Korpel : > > > > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 4:22 AM, Det wrote: > > > > Enough of that already. Why I chose the "java-8-jdk" naming comes > from >

Re: [aur-general] Java name guideliness

2014-09-23 Thread Dave Reisner
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 05:22:52PM -0300, Pablo Lezaeta Reyes wrote: > 2014-09-23 13:13 GMT-03:00 Marcel Korpel : > > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 4:22 AM, Det wrote: > > > Enough of that already. Why I chose the "java-8-jdk" naming comes from > > the > > > fact that "java-8-openjdk" sounds like we'

Re: [aur-general] Java name guideliness

2014-09-23 Thread Pablo Lezaeta Reyes
2014-09-23 13:13 GMT-03:00 Marcel Korpel : > On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 4:22 AM, Det wrote: > > Enough of that already. Why I chose the "java-8-jdk" naming comes from > the > > fact that "java-8-openjdk" sounds like we're trying to do "java- > version>-". The project name of JDK is not "Oracle JDK",

Re: [aur-general] Java name guideliness

2014-09-23 Thread Marcel Korpel
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 4:22 AM, Det wrote: > Enough of that already. Why I chose the "java-8-jdk" naming comes from the > fact that "java-8-openjdk" sounds like we're trying to do "java- version>-". The project name of JDK is not "Oracle JDK", and > that's why I chose it. Now, OpenJDK apparently

Re: [aur-general] Java name guideliness

2014-09-21 Thread Pablo Lezaeta Reyes
2014-09-21 0:27 GMT-03:00 Kevin Ott : > On Saturday, September 20, 2014 10:19:52 PM Pablo Lezaeta Reyes wrote: > > If you know how not topposting using gmail please that will help me, and > as > > I stated I use gmail. > > > > It's actually pretty easy, although a bit more involved than it should

Re: [aur-general] Java name guideliness

2014-09-20 Thread Kevin Ott
On Saturday, September 20, 2014 10:19:52 PM Pablo Lezaeta Reyes wrote: > If you know how not topposting using gmail please that will help me, and as > I stated I use gmail. > It's actually pretty easy, although a bit more involved than it should be. When you hit reply you'll notice that at the b

Re: [aur-general] Java name guideliness

2014-09-20 Thread Pablo Lezaeta Reyes
If you know how not topposting using gmail please that will help me, and as I stated I use gmail. and what part ou not underestand? All the official packagen in the official repos that append a version they append it as --- and NOT as is now for jre/jdk(7,6) 2014-09-19 22:46 GMT-03:00 Det : > O

Re: [aur-general] Java name guideliness

2014-09-19 Thread Det
On Fri Sep 19 00:02:27 EDT 2014, Pablo Lezaeta Reyes wrote: > but upstream name not necesary mean the name that the encapsulate that > contain the package need to be named. > > There ar a handfull either throw arch and aur history and actual named > packages that not follow the name. > > but too l

Re: [aur-general] Java name guideliness

2014-09-18 Thread Pablo Lezaeta Reyes
but upstream name not necesary mean the name that the encapsulate that contain the package need to be named. There ar a handfull either throw arch and aur history and actual named packages that not follow the name. but too looking to the other packages in aur the version is alwas separate from th

Re: [aur-general] Java name guideliness

2014-09-18 Thread Det
On Thu Sep 11 14:02:41 EDT 2014, Pablo Lezaeta Reyes wrote: > If look to the pther packages (not java) the fewers who need a version they > apend the versión at the endm so for consistency whit the all others > packages I think is better keep the version at the end: > --: oracle/openjdk-jre-7/8 We

Re: [aur-general] Java name guideliness

2014-09-11 Thread Dave Reisner
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 08:13:11AM +1000, Justin Dray wrote: > ... Perhaps you could read over this before you post again: https://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/aur-general/2014-August/029294.html Cheers, d

Re: [aur-general] Java name guideliness

2014-09-11 Thread Justin Dray
The fact that one naming convention or the other being chosen is still not the issue, it's the fact that in the interim there are *both* packages in there. There should only be duplicates of the same package for as long as it takes for a merge request to be processed. This is clearly not the case,

Re: [aur-general] Java name guideliness

2014-09-11 Thread Pablo Lezaeta Reyes
If look to the pther packages (not java) the fewers who need a version they apend the versión at the endm so for consistency whit the all others packages I think is better keep the version at the end: --: oracle/openjdk-jre-7/8 2014-09-11 13:41 GMT-03:00 Det : > More input. > > On 09/09/14 23:08,

Re: [aur-general] Java name guideliness

2014-09-11 Thread Det
More input. On 09/09/14 23:08, Justin Dray wrote: > Part of the issue here however is that now there are both jre7 and > jre7-oracle and so on duplicate packages in the AUR. Yes, but why are you bringing that up as an "issue", as we are trying to decide exactly which one to keep before just remov

Re: [aur-general] Java name guideliness

2014-09-10 Thread P. A. López-Valencia
On 10/09/14 00:20, Pablo Lezaeta Reyes wrote: First of all, I really *really* urge you to stop using phrases like "refusal" Refusal is what happend when two or more not agree in something I never mention who is refusing who cause both side from the vewpoint of the other is refusing the other si

Re: [aur-general] Java name guideliness

2014-09-10 Thread Rafael Ferreira
2014-09-09 23:22 GMT-03:00 Det : > > Enough of that already. Why I chose the "java-8-jdk" naming comes from the > fact that "java-8-openjdk" sounds like we're trying to do "java- version>-". The project name of JDK is not "Oracle JDK", and > that's why I chose it. Now, OpenJDK apparently still call

Re: [aur-general] Java name guideliness

2014-09-09 Thread Pablo Lezaeta Reyes
>First of all, I really *really* urge you to stop using phrases like "refusal" Refusal is what happend when two or more not agree in something I never mention who is refusing who cause both side from the vewpoint of the other is refusing the other side of view. >In fact, _nowhere_ do I see anybody

Re: [aur-general] Java name guideliness

2014-09-09 Thread Justin Dray
Part of the issue here however is that now there are both jre7 and jre7-oracle and so on duplicate packages in the AUR. If someone says 'oh, i need oracle jdk, I can search on the AUR for that.' Well now they have to go and read all of the comments and look around on the wiki/mailing lists/forums t

Re: [aur-general] Java name guideliness

2014-09-09 Thread Det
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 8:18 AM, Pablo Lezaeta Reyes wrote: > Since the new java-common come to the repo Is now possible have multiple > java, but this bring and open another issue, java naming scheme the guy in > jre/jdk[1] and jre-devel and jdk-devel refuse to follow a convention non > gener

Re: [aur-general] Java name guideliness

2014-09-09 Thread Justin Dray
Agreed, someone complained on one of my java packages that it was using the incorrect path for oracle java from the aur, and upon inspection I noticed these multiple packages providing the same thing, none of which work as they should be. I assumed they would have fixed it since that was only a sho

[aur-general] Java name guideliness

2014-09-09 Thread Pablo Lezaeta Reyes
Since the new java-common come to the repo Is now possible have multiple java, but this bring and open another issue, java naming scheme the guy in jre/jdk[1] and jre-devel and jdk-devel refuse to follow a convention non generic name and the other maintaining jre7/jdk7 [2] and jre7-oracle/jdk7-orac

Re: [aur-general] 'java-runtime' dependency not working as expected

2014-04-23 Thread Rafael Ferreira
It make sense... As soon as I installed jdk7 (replacing jre7), it compiled just fine. Thanks Nowaker and Antonio Rojas 2014-04-23 13:58 GMT-03:00 Antonio Rojas : > Rafael Ferreira wrote: > > > Hi there. > > > > Sudokuki has 'java-runtime' [1] as dependency and I have 'jre7' [2] (from > > AUR)

Re: [aur-general] 'java-runtime' dependency not working as expected

2014-04-23 Thread Antonio Rojas
Rafael Ferreira wrote: > Hi there. > > Sudokuki has 'java-runtime' [1] as dependency and I have 'jre7' [2] (from > AUR) installed (which 'provides' java-runtime=7)... When I try to compile > sudokuki, makepkg warns me: > > :: jre7-openjdk and jre7 are in conflict (java-runtime). Remove jre7? >

Re: [aur-general] 'java-runtime' dependency not working as expected

2014-04-23 Thread Nowaker
:: jre7-openjdk and jre7 are in conflict (java-runtime). Remove jre7? [y/N] JRE != JDK. You need JDK7 to compile Java software. makedepends=('java-environment') And it tries to install OpenJDK for you, but it conflicts with your JRE. Install Oracle JDK if you don't want OpenJDK. https://a

[aur-general] 'java-runtime' dependency not working as expected

2014-04-23 Thread Rafael Ferreira
Hi there. Sudokuki has 'java-runtime' [1] as dependency and I have 'jre7' [2] (from AUR) installed (which 'provides' java-runtime=7)... When I try to compile sudokuki, makepkg warns me: :: jre7-openjdk and jre7 are in conflict (java-runtime). Remove jre7? [y/N] I don't want to install jre7-open

Re: [aur-general] Java Dependency and Cross-Compilation Questions

2009-11-05 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 6 Nov 2009 02:01:36 -0500 schrieb Eric Bélanger : > Yes, these problems should be reported upstream to openjdk6 and/or > jgnash. > > If you change the depends to java-runtime, it might be a good idea to > display a warning via a post-upgrade message that there might be > problems with ope

Re: [aur-general] Java Dependency and Cross-Compilation Questions

2009-11-05 Thread Eric Bélanger
On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:34 AM, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Fri, 6 Nov 2009 00:45:06 -0500 > schrieb Eric Bélanger : > >> >> In this case, make it depends on jre.  You could put a note in the >> >> PKGBUILD to explain this dependency. > > Btw., putting a note about a restricted dependency in the PKGBU

Re: [aur-general] Java Dependency and Cross-Compilation Questions

2009-11-05 Thread Eric Bélanger
On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:21 AM, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Fri, 6 Nov 2009 00:29:49 -0500 > schrieb Eric Bélanger : > >> > I know that no other packages depend on jre directly, and the >> > prefered method is now java-runtime, but doesn't that mean that >> > openjdk6 users will just have this softwar

Re: [aur-general] Java Dependency and Cross-Compilation Questions

2009-11-05 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 6 Nov 2009 00:45:06 -0500 schrieb Eric Bélanger : > >> In this case, make it depends on jre.  You could put a note in the > >> PKGBUILD to explain this dependency. Btw., putting a note about a restricted dependency in the PKGBUILD is not the recommended way because the average user doesn'

Re: [aur-general] Java Dependency and Cross-Compilation Questions

2009-11-05 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 6 Nov 2009 00:29:49 -0500 schrieb Eric Bélanger : > > I know that no other packages depend on jre directly, and the > > prefered method is now java-runtime, but doesn't that mean that > > openjdk6 users will just have this software silently fail? > > In this case, make it depends on jre.

Re: [aur-general] Java Dependency and Cross-Compilation Questions

2009-11-05 Thread Eric Bélanger
On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 12:35 AM, doorknob60 wrote: > Here's how I installed my chroot, it works very well (I don't even use any > lib32 or bin32 packages anymore, just this): > http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch64_Install_bundled_32bit_system > Or you can use the official mkarchroot tool: h

Re: [aur-general] Java Dependency and Cross-Compilation Questions

2009-11-05 Thread doorknob60
Here's how I installed my chroot, it works very well (I don't even use any lib32 or bin32 packages anymore, just this): http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch64_Install_bundled_32bit_system On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Eric Bélanger wrote: > On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Aaron Schaefer >

Re: [aur-general] Java Dependency and Cross-Compilation Questions

2009-11-05 Thread Eric Bélanger
On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Aaron Schaefer wrote: > So, my new machine is up and running (and I figured out my previous > packaging issues!)...so I'm updating my jGnash package > (http://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/i686/jgnash/) to the > latest release and there is also currently a bu

Re: [aur-general] Java Dependency and Cross-Compilation Questions

2009-11-05 Thread Smartboy
On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Aaron Schaefer wrote: > So, my new machine is up and running (and I figured out my previous > packaging issues!)...so I'm updating my jGnash package > (http://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/i686/jgnash/) to the > latest release and there is also currently a b

[aur-general] Java Dependency and Cross-Compilation Questions

2009-11-05 Thread Aaron Schaefer
So, my new machine is up and running (and I figured out my previous packaging issues!)...so I'm updating my jGnash package (http://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/i686/jgnash/) to the latest release and there is also currently a bug report on the package (http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/16665).

Re: [aur-general] java package has build time deps

2009-07-21 Thread svoufff
Le Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:20:26 +0200, Laszlo Papp a écrit : > In last case, you can take these near the package, like other people > do it with patches, install files. > > Thorp, No Pardon :) > > Best Regards, > Laszlo Papp > Thanks Laszlo, that's probably what i'll do.However there is another

Re: [aur-general] java package has build time deps

2009-07-21 Thread Andrei Thorp
Excerpts from edogawaconan's message of Tue Jul 21 10:19:44 -0400 2009: > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Andrei Thorp wrote: > > Excerpts from Loui Chang's message of Mon Jul 20 17:30:47 -0400 2009: > >> On Tue 21 Jul 2009 01:03 +0400, svoufff wrote: > >> > yes the jsampler release version contai

Re: [aur-general] java package has build time deps

2009-07-21 Thread Laszlo Papp
In last case, you can take these near the package, like other people do it with patches, install files. Thorp, No Pardon :) Best Regards, Laszlo Papp

Re: [aur-general] java package has build time deps

2009-07-21 Thread edogawaconan
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Andrei Thorp wrote: > Excerpts from Loui Chang's message of Mon Jul 20 17:30:47 -0400 2009: >> On Tue 21 Jul 2009 01:03 +0400, svoufff wrote: >> > yes the jsampler release version contains them but not jsampler from >> > cvs. >> > >> > Le Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:56:55 +

Re: [aur-general] java package has build time deps

2009-07-21 Thread Andrei Thorp
Excerpts from Loui Chang's message of Mon Jul 20 17:30:47 -0400 2009: > On Tue 21 Jul 2009 01:03 +0400, svoufff wrote: > > yes the jsampler release version contains them but not jsampler from > > cvs. > > > > Le Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:56:55 +, > > Laszlo Papp a écrit : > > > > > Is there any pa

Re: [aur-general] java package has build time deps

2009-07-20 Thread Loui Chang
On Tue 21 Jul 2009 01:03 +0400, svoufff wrote: > yes the jsampler release version contains them but not jsampler from > cvs. > > Le Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:56:55 +, > Laszlo Papp a écrit : > > > Is there any package/program which contains this files ? > > > > Best Regards, > > Laszlo Papp > >

Re: [aur-general] java package has build time deps

2009-07-20 Thread svoufff
yes the jsampler release version contains them but not jsampler from cvs. Le Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:56:55 +, Laszlo Papp a écrit : > Is there any package/program which contains this files ? > > Best Regards, > Laszlo Papp > > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:51 PM, svoufff wrote: > > > Hi, i'm

Re: [aur-general] java package has build time deps

2009-07-20 Thread Laszlo Papp
Is there any package/program which contains this files ? Best Regards, Laszlo Papp On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:51 PM, svoufff wrote: > Hi, i'm working on a PKGBUILD for jsampler-cvs.This is a java frontend > to Linuxsampler. > This app requires 4 more java libraries to be present at build time i

[aur-general] java package has build time deps

2009-07-20 Thread svoufff
Hi, i'm working on a PKGBUILD for jsampler-cvs.This is a java frontend to Linuxsampler. This app requires 4 more java libraries to be present at build time in a subdir of the source.These are jlscp.jar, juife.jar, swingx.jar and substance.jar.All of these are only needed for build, I ran the progra

Re: [aur-general] java

2009-06-17 Thread Marq Schneider
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 18:09, nathan owe. wrote: > nathan owe. wrote: >> >> this is confusing we need a easier PKGBUILD example for java. here is my >> pkgbuild so far: >> >> /# Contributor: Nathan Owe >> pkgname=jpartialdownloader >> pkgver=1.9 >> pkgrel=1 >> pkgdesc="" >> arch=('i686' 'x86_64')

Re: [aur-general] java

2009-06-17 Thread nathan owe.
nathan owe. wrote: this is confusing we need a easier PKGBUILD example for java. here is my pkgbuild so far: /# Contributor: Nathan Owe pkgname=jpartialdownloader pkgver=1.9 pkgrel=1 pkgdesc="" arch=('i686' 'x86_64') url="" license=('GPL') groups=() depends=('openjdk6') makedepends=('openjdk6'

[aur-general] java

2009-06-17 Thread nathan owe.
this is confusing we need a easier PKGBUILD example for java. here is my pkgbuild so far: /# Contributor: Nathan Owe pkgname=jpartialdownloader pkgver=1.9 pkgrel=1 pkgdesc="" arch=('i686' 'x86_64') url="" license=('GPL') groups=() depends=('openjdk6') makedepends=('openjdk6') source=(http://dow

Re: [aur-general] java pkgbuild

2009-06-15 Thread Eric Bélanger
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 2:12 AM, nathan owe. wrote: > i am trying to find an example java build on arch wiki, also been looking at > the forums. is there no example pkgbuild that i can copy and put in > /usr/share/pacman/ > this might help: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Java_Package_Guidelin

Re: [aur-general] java pkgbuild

2009-06-15 Thread Daenyth Blank
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 02:12, nathan owe. wrote: > i am trying to find an example java build on arch wiki, also been looking at > the forums. is there no example pkgbuild that i can copy and put in > /usr/share/pacman/ > I'd recommend looking around the AUR for good examples (Personally I think m

Re: [aur-general] java pkgbuild

2009-06-15 Thread Stefan Husmann
nathan owe. schrieb: i am trying to find an example java build on arch wiki, also been looking at the forums. is there no example pkgbuild that i can copy and put in /usr/share/pacman/ Hello, I do not think it is typical but if you want to see a java package witch uses a buildsystem and w

Re: [aur-general] java pkgbuild

2009-06-14 Thread nathan owe.
Ronald van Haren wrote: On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 8:28 AM, nathan owe. wrote: Ronald van Haren wrote: On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 8:20 AM, nathan owe. wrote: Allan McRae wrote: nathan owe. wrote: i am trying to find an example java build on arch wiki, also bee

Re: [aur-general] java pkgbuild

2009-06-14 Thread Ronald van Haren
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 8:28 AM, nathan owe. wrote: > Ronald van Haren wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 8:20 AM, nathan owe. wrote: >> >>> >>> Allan McRae wrote: >>> nathan owe. wrote: > > i am trying to find an example java build on arch wiki, also been > looking >>>

Re: [aur-general] java pkgbuild

2009-06-14 Thread nathan owe.
Ronald van Haren wrote: On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 8:20 AM, nathan owe. wrote: Allan McRae wrote: nathan owe. wrote: i am trying to find an example java build on arch wiki, also been looking at the forums. is there no example pkgbuild that i can copy and put in /usr/share/pacman/

Re: [aur-general] java pkgbuild

2009-06-14 Thread Ronald van Haren
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Ronald van Haren wrote: > On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 8:20 AM, nathan owe. wrote: >> Allan McRae wrote: >>> >>> nathan owe. wrote: i am trying to find an example java build on arch wiki, also been looking at the forums. is there no example pkgbuild that i

Re: [aur-general] java pkgbuild

2009-06-14 Thread Ronald van Haren
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 8:20 AM, nathan owe. wrote: > Allan McRae wrote: >> >> nathan owe. wrote: >>> >>> i am trying to find an example java build on arch wiki, also been looking >>> at the forums. is there no example pkgbuild that i can copy and put in >>> /usr/share/pacman/ >> >> There is none t

Re: [aur-general] java pkgbuild

2009-06-14 Thread nathan owe.
Allan McRae wrote: nathan owe. wrote: i am trying to find an example java build on arch wiki, also been looking at the forums. is there no example pkgbuild that i can copy and put in /usr/share/pacman/ There is none that I know of. Most java packages just dump all their files in /usr/share

Re: [aur-general] java pkgbuild

2009-06-14 Thread Allan McRae
nathan owe. wrote: i am trying to find an example java build on arch wiki, also been looking at the forums. is there no example pkgbuild that i can copy and put in /usr/share/pacman/ There is none that I know of. Most java packages just dump all their files in /usr/share/java/${pkgname}/ an

[aur-general] java pkgbuild

2009-06-14 Thread nathan owe.
i am trying to find an example java build on arch wiki, also been looking at the forums. is there no example pkgbuild that i can copy and put in /usr/share/pacman/

Re: [aur-general] Java SDK/Runtime dependencies

2009-02-05 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 05:47:16PM +0100, solsTiCe d'Hiver wrote: > using java-runtime as dependancy makes pacman install java-gcj-compat > wihc seems to broke most of the packages. > > so before using java-runtime as dependancy one need to get rid off > java-gcj-compat ? no ? > http://bugs.arch

Re: [aur-general] Java SDK/Runtime dependencies

2009-02-05 Thread solsTiCe d'Hiver
using java-runtime as dependancy makes pacman install java-gcj-compat wihc seems to broke most of the packages. so before using java-runtime as dependancy one need to get rid off java-gcj-compat ? no ?

Re: [aur-general] Java SDK/Runtime dependencies

2009-02-05 Thread Ondřej Kučera
Hi, yes it is correct. It's just that the gcj one breaks stuff as it is incompatible. Vuze (formerly Azureus) in community has actually the same problem. Works with jre, works with openjdk, doesn't work with gcj. Its site claims that it should work though so maybe a little tweaking of the s

Re: [aur-general] Java SDK/Runtime dependencies

2009-02-05 Thread Xavier
2009/2/5 Ronald van Haren : > 2009/2/5 Xavier : >> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Ondřej Kučera >> wrote: >>> >>> The "correct" dependencies now are the following two: >>> - java-runtime - needed for applications written in Java >>> - java-environment - needed for Java development and for applic

Re: [aur-general] Java SDK/Runtime dependencies

2009-02-05 Thread Ronald van Haren
2009/2/5 Xavier : > On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Ondřej Kučera > wrote: >> >> The "correct" dependencies now are the following two: >> - java-runtime - needed for applications written in Java >> - java-environment - needed for Java development and for applications that >> need to compile Java

Re: [aur-general] Java SDK/Runtime dependencies

2009-02-05 Thread Xavier
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Ondřej Kučera wrote: > Hello, > > Rorschach wrote: >> >> thanks Ronald van Haren and dejari for making this clear! I updated now >> all my packages which require java: i2p, jondo and ipscan to depend on j2sdk >> instead of openjdk6. I'm now going to add this to the

Re: [aur-general] Java SDK/Runtime dependencies

2009-02-05 Thread Ondřej Kučera
Hello, Rorschach wrote: thanks Ronald van Haren and dejari for making this clear! I updated now all my packages which require java: i2p, jondo and ipscan to depend on j2sdk instead of openjdk6. I'm now going to add this to the java packaging guidelines. No, please don't do that. As far as I

Re: [aur-general] Java SDK/Runtime dependencies

2009-02-05 Thread Rorschach
thanks Ronald van Haren and dejari for making this clear! I updated now all my packages which require java: i2p, jondo and ipscan to depend on j2sdk instead of openjdk6. I'm now going to add this to the java packaging guidelines. greetings signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [aur-general] Java SDK/Runtime dependencies

2009-02-05 Thread Ronald van Haren
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Rorschach wrote: > On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:22:26 +0100 > Ronald van Haren wrote: > >> in that case use j2sdk as suggested before. > > If I use j2sdk as dependencie what package gets installed by pacman if the > user has no java already installed? > the first packa

Re: [aur-general] Java SDK/Runtime dependencies

2009-02-05 Thread Rorschach
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:22:26 +0100 Ronald van Haren wrote: > in that case use j2sdk as suggested before. If I use j2sdk as dependencie what package gets installed by pacman if the user has no java already installed? signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [aur-general] Java SDK/Runtime dependencies

2009-02-05 Thread Ronald van Haren
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Rorschach wrote: > On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:07:01 +0100 > Ronald van Haren wrote: >> let it depend on java-environment. This is both provided by openjdk6 >> and the sun jdk package. >> >> Ronald > > What package gets installed then if the user has until now none of t

Re: [aur-general] Java SDK/Runtime dependencies

2009-02-05 Thread Rorschach
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:07:01 +0100 Ronald van Haren wrote: > let it depend on java-environment. This is both provided by openjdk6 > and the sun jdk package. > > Ronald What package gets installed then if the user has until now none of these installed: $ pacman -sS java-environment extra/java-gc

Re: [aur-general] Java SDK/Runtime dependencies

2009-02-05 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 11:57:34AM +0100, Leslie P. Polzer wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > Rorschach has asked me to bring the discussion at > > http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=2033 > > to this mailing list. > > Please help us find a consensus. > > > My answer to his last question

Re: [aur-general] Java SDK/Runtime dependencies

2009-02-05 Thread Ronald van Haren
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Rorschach wrote: > Is the provides field really doing what you think? Than I didn't understood > it right. Could please someone bring some light to this? > > In general I think that Sun's Java should be kicked out as dependencie in > every package where openjdk6

Re: [aur-general] Java SDK/Runtime dependencies

2009-02-05 Thread Rorschach
Is the provides field really doing what you think? Than I didn't understood it right. Could please someone bring some light to this? In general I think that Sun's Java should be kicked out as dependencie in every package where openjdk6 works fine because I think the main goal should be that we

Re: [aur-general] Java SDK/Runtime dependencies

2009-02-05 Thread Ronald van Haren
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Leslie P. Polzer wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > Rorschach has asked me to bring the discussion at > > http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=2033 > > to this mailing list. > > Please help us find a consensus. > > > My answer to his last question is: > > --- > Le

[aur-general] Java SDK/Runtime dependencies

2009-02-05 Thread Leslie P. Polzer
Hello everyone, Rorschach has asked me to bring the discussion at http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=2033 to this mailing list. Please help us find a consensus. My answer to his last question is: --- Let them install openjdk6 to provide the j2sdk dependency. It's not the Arch philo