[Aus-soaring] SWER

2006-03-21 Thread Wayne Carter
Hi guys, we all know the dangers of the evil SWER type powerlines across our wide brown land. As an idea for discussion, Is there a database available on these lines and if so, could it be fed through into Seeyou or Winpilot to warn when looking for outlanding sites? If there is not a

Re: [Aus-soaring] SWER

2006-03-21 Thread John Giddy
I think you will find that any database is held by the electricity distributor in the area, and won't necessarily be compatible with the database held by an adjoining supplier. Good luck ;-) John G. Wayne Carter wrote: Hi guys, we all know the dangers of the evil SWER type powerlines across

Re: [Aus-soaring] SWER

2006-03-21 Thread Scott Penrose
Unfortunately no. The reason SWER is such an issue, is that there is no database. The reason for this is that they are private - not infrastructure. If there was a database (and there is for mains power lines etc) then it could be installed into FLARM - which is what they do in Europe. It

RE: [Aus-soaring] SWER

2006-03-21 Thread Derek Ruddock
Instead of looking at your PDA when outlanding, a better idea would be to look out of the window ;) On 22/03/2006, at 13:31, Wayne Carter wrote: Hi guys, we all know the dangers of the evil SWER type powerlines across our wide brown land. As an idea for discussion, Is there a database

Re: [Aus-soaring] SWER

2006-03-21 Thread Scott Penrose
On 22/03/2006, at 15:29, Derek Ruddock wrote: Instead of looking at your PDA when outlanding, a better idea would be to look out of the window ;) :-) On a serious note though - if for example you are flying in the hills, see two valleys with small paddocks, but you are still high, it

RE: [Aus-soaring] SWER

2006-03-21 Thread Kittel, Stephen W \(ETSA\)
And Also Don't forget all of these power lines were built in the pre computer days (let alone pre GPS) so location data may exist only on paper. Or (since the general downsizing of the industry over the last 15 years) it may have been lost and no meaningful location data of any kind may exist in

RE: [Aus-soaring] SWER

2006-03-21 Thread Derek Ruddock
So who is the widow going to sue when the information is wrong, and the pilot is decapitated when fiddling with his PDA on approach into a wire free field? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: [Aus-soaring] SWER

2006-03-21 Thread Scott Penrose
...Just got the replies by Scott and Derek, sorry, SWER wires are private? Huh? Once you hit the first pole on your own property, the wire and poles to your house are yours.You are required to maintain them.Of course you still need an authorised electrician to do it - just like you do wiring in

RE: [Aus-soaring] SWER

2006-03-21 Thread Kittel, Stephen W \(ETSA\)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wayne, Good Idea! Each jurisdiction would (ahem - should) 80/20 rule. While it's nice to have a complete record of what's out there, capturing the data for the capital city usually covers 95%+ of all needs. Large country towns are a bonus. Remote

Re: [Aus-soaring] SWER

2006-03-21 Thread Scott Penrose
On 22/03/2006, at 15:54, Derek Ruddock wrote: So who is the widow going to sue when the information is wrong, and the pilot is decapitated when fiddling with his PDA on approach into a ‘wire free’ field?This argument of course can be made for everything we use. From the list of radio frequencies

RE: [Aus-soaring] SWER

2006-03-21 Thread David Lawley
derek ruddocksaid: So who is the widow going to sue when the information is wrong, and the pilot is decapitated when fiddling with his PDAon approach into a wire free field? Yeh right, lets all go back to candles and keroso no one gets an electric shock,and walking so theres no

RE: [Aus-soaring] SWER

2006-03-21 Thread Kittel, Stephen W \(ETSA\)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott PenroseSent: Wednesday, 22 March 2006 3:25 PMTo: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] SWER ...Just got the replies by Scott and Derek, sorry,

Re: [Aus-soaring] SWER

2006-03-21 Thread Scott Penrose
There are _no_ private SWER lines in SA. The utility owns the SWER line up to the transformer pole at the house, the transformer, the LV feed into the house and the meter. (There are tens of thousands of kilometres of SWER in SA) That might be true, but there are non SWER lines - ie: No