Would be curious to know what the status of the standby pitots and
statics were in the Air France flight (if such information is possible
to ascertain from the data recorders).
Assuming there was enough electricity to the standby unit, I guess the
only useful standby instrument would've been the A
Another US stoush about sharing an airport.
http://poststar.com/news/local/article_eed6e5ee-8ae9-11e0-9bc0-001cc4c03286.html
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At 08:58 PM 30/05/2011, you wrote:
On 30/05/2011, at 8:18 PM, Mike Borgelt wrote:
So hopefully when the computers went off line the back up display
worked from the gyros and accelerometers? With the quality of the
gyros and accelerometers they would be using the attitude display
at least oug
On 30/05/2011, at 8:18 PM, Mike Borgelt wrote:
> So hopefully when the computers went off line the back up display worked from
> the gyros and accelerometers? With the quality of the gyros and
> accelerometers they would be using the attitude display at least ought to
> work usefully for some
At 07:55 PM 30/05/2011, you wrote:
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There is a backup system and separate display to the PFD's (ISIS)
So hopefully when the computers went off line the back up display
worked
Quite a lot of further information (mixed in with varying amounts of
falsehood) on this specific accident can be found here:
http://www.pprune.org/tech-log/452836-af447-thread-no-3-a.html
Filter as required - after a while you will work out which contributors
know what they are talking about.
Hi;
On Mon, 30 May 2011, Mark Newton wrote:
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> On 30/05/2011, at 12:26 PM, DMcD wrote:
>
> > I was attempting to explain a stall like this to #2 wife and had
> > difficulty understanding why they did not put the nose down or look at
> > an instrument to tell them their AOA since they would have
Hi;
Here is the release from BEA which may answer some questions (and raise
others):
http://www.bea.aero/fr/enquetes/vol.af.447/point.enquete.af447.27mai2011.en.pdf
On Mon, 30 May 2011, Mike Borgelt wrote:
> At 12:56 PM 30/05/2011, you wrote:
> >I know nothing about nothing which is probably ap
So when they are talking about recovering from stalls, they dont mean the
cheap seats, its something those big things with the whatcha callits out the
sides do.
JR
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There is a backup system and separate display to the PFD's (ISIS)
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At 07:37 PM 30/05/2011, you wrote:
Airbus PFDs are driven by the air data computers. The flight data
recorder indicates that all three air data computers tripped offline --
which would have removed the PFD's data feed, which would have
rendered the entirety of both pilots' PFDs inoperative.
On 30/05/2011, at 6:34 PM, David Conway wrote:
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> It seems like Qantas have it right...
I wonder what they say about stick shakers in Q400's?
- mark
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On 30/05/2011, at 6:51 PM, David Conway wrote:
> As Mark says stall angle is complicated but they manage to present a lot of
> it on the primary flight display alongside the airspeed strip:
Yep, although on AF-744 the PFD would have been inoperative.
(one of the alerts very early in the piece
At 12:56 PM 30/05/2011, you wrote:
I know nothing about nothing which is probably apparent from my
postings, but can someone tell me, do instruments like an artificial
horizon give these pilots any indication of nose angle or angle of
incidence?
I was attempting to explain a stall like this to #
As Mark says stall angle is complicated but they manage to present a lot of
it on the primary flight display alongside the airspeed strip:
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It seems like Qantas have it right...
QUICK REFERENCE HANDBOOK
A330
STALL RECOVERY rec
As soon as any stall indication (could be aural warning, buffet) is
recognised, apply the immediate
actions :
- NOSE DOWN PITCH CONTROL
On 30/05/2011, at 5:07 PM, anthony.sm...@adelaide.on.net wrote:
> Stall angle gets really complicated and modern airliners will have a computer
> to work it all out and provide warning to the crew. Most of the time this
> takes the form of a 'stick shaker' - a system which mechanically shakes
On 30/05/2011, at 12:26 PM, DMcD wrote:
> I was attempting to explain a stall like this to #2 wife and had
> difficulty understanding why they did not put the nose down or look at
> an instrument to tell them their AOA since they would have had some
> minutes to think about this during what appea
The artificial horizon (AH) will only tell you if you are climbing or
descending. It works on the direction you are travelling in.
Most larger aircraft will have an angle of attack device, either a
vane or probe, mounted on either side of the nose. This can be used in
a
Hi All
For those that do not already know
We had hoped to visit the Adelaide Airport Air traffic control centre tomorrow
night but that was unable to be organised with them for this date (it also
clashes with the SAGA Airworthiness course).
We will advise when we can get a date tied down a
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