Re: [Aus-soaring] DG Licenses for old LS and DG Gliders

2012-03-19 Thread Mark Newton
On 20/03/2012, at 2:11 PM, "Future Aviation" wrote: > Together with the involuntary service fee it might keep DG afloat and owners > of LS and DG > gliders can get the support needed to keep their gliders in the air. I hope Glasflugel and Schneider never go broke, otherwise there'll be no su

Re: [Aus-soaring] DG Licenses for old LS and DG Gliders

2012-03-19 Thread Future Aviation
Hi Tim With all due respect but I think you are missing the point ever so slightly here. Let me explain! When LS went bankrupt DG took over and promised an even better support than the original manufacturer. In fact for the best part of a decade Mr. Weber (owner of DG) never got tired of adve

Re: [Aus-soaring] DG Licenses for old LS and DG Gliders

2012-03-19 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 09:57 AM 20/03/2012, you wrote: It is a bit like lifelong roadside assist but not built into the cost of the vehicle. It is actually like having a gun held to your head by a Policeman and your wallet contents extracted and given to a mugger. Come to think of it that's a good working mo

Re: [Aus-soaring] DG Licenses for old LS and DG Gliders

2012-03-19 Thread Christopher Mc Donnell
Untitled DocumentIt is a bit like lifelong roadside assist but not built into the cost of the vehicle. - Original Message - From: Tim Shirley To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 9:37 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] DG Licenses

Re: [Aus-soaring] Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 102, Issue 24

2012-03-19 Thread Mark Newton
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 07:01:33AM +1100, wayne carter wrote: > I am postulating that the damage could easily be cause if the rope was > wrapped AROUND the wing and dragged thus. > There would be inadequate pulling force to break the weak link, but plenty > of force to saw into the wing with

Re: [Aus-soaring] DG Licenses for old LS and DG Gliders

2012-03-19 Thread Tim Shirley
It must cost quite a bit to maintain all the paperwork and engineering expertise for the older gliders and if they are going to stay in business someone has to pay the bills. I guess some factories might just load up the price of new gliders, or their repair prices, or their price for parts,

Re: [Aus-soaring] DG Licenses for old LS and DG Gliders

2012-03-19 Thread Ross McLean
Up to that point I had always had a high regard for DG. Once they pulled that little trick I was much less impressed with them. The LS8 is such a great glider though I am now at their mercy. ROSS From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.ne

[Aus-soaring] DG Licenses for old LS and DG Gliders

2012-03-19 Thread John Trezise
Hi Ross ... so you were hit for 2 years. The annual fee if you go through Tom is Eu190 per year around ... around AUD 260 including GST. Direct to the factory (which allows you to deal directly with DG) is Eu250 ... around AUD312. John ___ Aus-soarin

Re: [Aus-soaring] Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 102, Issue 24

2012-03-19 Thread wayne carter
Re: Practice hook up procedure (Ian Mc Phee) I am postulating that the damage could easily be cause if the rope was wrapped AROUND the wing and dragged thus. There would be inadequate pulling force to break the weak link, but plenty of force to saw into the wing with an abrasive rope and friction.

Re: [Aus-soaring] DG Licenses for old LS and DG Gliders

2012-03-19 Thread Ross McLean
$657.80 was the invoiced amount ROSS From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of John Trezise Sent: Monday, 19 March 2012 12:51 PM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: [Aus-soaring] DG Licenses for old LS and DG G

Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliding books for sale

2012-03-19 Thread Catherine Conway
Hi Jim. I'm interested in the Welsh and Irving book if still available since I lost my copy years ago. I'm back in the country tomorrow Cath Sent from my iPhone On 19/03/2012, at 2:39 PM, "Jim Hackett" wrote: > Hi guys: > > I have the following gliding books for sale. When making an off

Re: [Aus-soaring] DG Licenses for old LS and DG Gliders

2012-03-19 Thread Catherine Conway
I'm in Singapore on my way back from Germany on a gliding related trip. I spoke to people there about the issue and while I don't know if it's a general impression, people i met were not happy with the DG fee and and felt that those that paid it did not get value for money or good service. Some

Re: [Aus-soaring] Practice hook up procedure

2012-03-19 Thread John Parncutt
The weak link MUST be placed at the tug end of the rope, otherwise it can't protect the tug in the event of fence strikes. We used to use a short length of 6mm rope as the weak link which was less risk of damaging the glider if it were to fail. However we have now moved from this method t

Re: [Aus-soaring] DG Licenses for old LS and DG Gliders

2012-03-19 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 08:57 AM 19/03/2012, you wrote: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_NextPart_000_001E_01CD05B6.AF270850" Content-Language: en-au Looks like this issue is still on the boil. Apparently the legality has been challenged with DG threatening to withdraw all support if it

Re: [Aus-soaring] Practice hook up procedure

2012-03-19 Thread Ian Mc Phee
My experience is a weak link at the tow plane end where it does not get damaged by wear (dragged on ground at landing) etc and if a light glider is used then maybe another weak link is clipped in to end of rope at glider end. I am not too keen on extra weight on the glider end of rope as could do