Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliders, Transponders and ATC

2012-04-20 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 08:36 AM 21/04/2012, you wrote: >Not true, TCAS will trigger your transponder outside radar coverage. Thanks Mike. Is that sort of TCAS still a big boy's (heavy metal) toy or is it creeping into GA? When I have used GA a/c equip with a so-called 'TCAS', I was told it relied upon using sig

[Aus-soaring] Re tcas

2012-04-20 Thread Nigel Andrews
I think the ga tcas you are talking about might be the alert only systems like zaon sell which relies on replies from aircraft that have been interrogated by atc or other tcas aircraft as your description seems to suggest this,if you are out of coverage of either then you will see nothing. They

Re: [Aus-soaring] Radio & near collision.

2012-04-20 Thread Lucas James
On 20/04/2012 21:37, Simon Hackett wrote: In the unlikely event you've not all seen it already, here's one way the outcome could have turned out: http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/007288.html I will say that while I appreciate its an issue that more than a few glider pilots seem passion

Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliders, Transponders and ATC

2012-04-20 Thread Texler, Michael
>Not true, TCAS will trigger your transponder outside radar coverage. Thanks Mike. Is that sort of TCAS still a big boy's (heavy metal) toy or is it creeping into GA? When I have used GA a/c equip with a so-called 'TCAS', I was told it relied upon using signals from interrogated transponders. I

Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliders versus Power, radio use, look out, it can be difficult, know the limitations

2012-04-20 Thread Peter Fox
As an ex comp hang glider pilot from 10 years back we all used standard CB radios and the flying team (not team flying but a group of pilots using the same pick up driver) would select a CB channel - the comp organisers would also have a pre specified channel. The problem was the constant chat fro

Re: [Aus-soaring] Radio & near collision.

2012-04-20 Thread Catherine Conway
I recently operated motorglider for AEFs at a large regional airport with RPT and the flying doctor. The aircraft was fitted with a device that was both a flarm and an ADSB (I think). And yes it had a transponder connected. It worked. I spoke to the flying doctor on the ground after we both

Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliders, Transponders and ATC

2012-04-20 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 10:35 PM 20/04/2012, you wrote: Transponders work OK if being interrogated by a secondary radar. No use outside of radar coverage. However, there are many more active devices appearing that do not rely upon being interrogated and broadcast (a la FLARM and ADS-B). I reckon watch this space

[Aus-soaring] Gliders, Transponders and ATC

2012-04-20 Thread Texler, Michael
Transponders work OK if being interrogated by a secondary radar. No use outside of radar coverage. However, there are many more active devices appearing that do not rely upon being interrogated and broadcast (a la FLARM and ADS-B). I reckon watch this space

Re: [Aus-soaring] Radio & near collision.

2012-04-20 Thread David Long and Cathy Lincoln
I was recently flying Mildura to Wagga.  About a mile in front of me, at _exactly_ the same level, I saw another aircraft zoom right to left. A few minutes later the helpful ATC person came out with "Traffic alert Narrandera area, two aircraft converging tracks." Yeah,

Re: [Aus-soaring] Radio & near collision.

2012-04-20 Thread Scott Penrose
On 20/04/2012, at 10:03 PM, Simon Hackett wrote: > ... i.e. ATC will often actively notify other VFR traffic they can see, of > the presence of conflicting traffic they can see. They will happily notify > any little plane about threats they should act to avoid, they are not just > there to hel

Re: [Aus-soaring] Radio & near collision.

2012-04-20 Thread Simon Hackett
Scott, There are multiple benefits beyond 'big planes and towers' seeing you. As I said: I've found that air traffic control is frequently helpful to VFR and IFR aircraft, in that they will call you up proactively and advise of the presence of transponder-equipped unidentified traffic in your

Re: [Aus-soaring] Radio & near collision.

2012-04-20 Thread Scott Penrose
On 20/04/2012, at 9:37 PM, Simon Hackett wrote: > I will say that while I appreciate its an issue that more than a few glider > pilots seem passionately opposed to for their own reasons, the notion of > regularly operating transponders in gliders is one that I personally believe > would be of

Re: [Aus-soaring] Radio & near collision.

2012-04-20 Thread Simon Hackett
In the unlikely event you've not all seen it already, here's one way the outcome could have turned out: http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/007288.html I will say that while I appreciate its an issue that more than a few glider pilots seem passionately opposed to for their own reasons, the

Re: [Aus-soaring] Radio & near collision.

2012-04-20 Thread Stuart & Kerri FERGUSON
Maybe all the gliders should have passed Cessna XXX their exact positions and intentions; the pilots would have been completely overloaded with data and avoided the area by 20nm J From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Beha

Re: [Aus-soaring] Radio & near collision.

2012-04-20 Thread emilis prelgauskas
An excellent example of differing management styles: - by rote, - by priorityand then there is - by objective On 20/04/2012, at 1:49 PM, Peter F Bradshaw wrote: It would be better to reasonably comply with all rules. On Fri, 20 Apr 2012, Tim Shirley wrote: I listen as

Re: [Aus-soaring] Radio & near collision.

2012-04-20 Thread emilis prelgauskas
How do we get the spirit of this across to other aviators, public and media?: On 20/04/2012, at 1:37 PM, Tim Shirley wrote: the operational characteristics of gliders makes information provided by radio far less useful in a predictive sense than the same information given by a powered aircraf