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From: Ron Sanders <resand...@gmail.com>
Date: 2009/11/19
Subject: Re: BOM Historical Data.i
To: opsw...@bigpond.net.au


Thank you guys.

I am talking about going back 20 years or so.

Anybody got an email for Sue Lawrence??

2009/11/18  <opsw...@bigpond.net.au>:
> Ron,
>
> the best contact is the Manager Aviation and Defence in the BOM, Sue Lawrence 
> at the Melbourne office. . She will be able to source both the synoptic and 
> F160 data ( tephigraph) for the day. Sometimes it costs though!
>
> Regard
>
> Peter Heath
>
>
>
> ---- Ron Sanders <resand...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Good post Paul. Mike's views and opinions are always based on
>> research, research and far more thought. He isn't always the most
>> social animal and yes my post here can easily be construed as biased
>> because he has been a friend of mine for more than forty years, BUT
>> the one thing that you can NEVER take away from Mike is his research
>> research and thought, based on Democratic, Free of dogma, free of
>> precedent, free of the fear of criticism, thinking processes. Often
>> the truth hurts and is often unpalatable as well but that is what i
>> think Mike is always after.
>>
>> Anyway at the risk of getting back to gliding stuff   can anyone tell
>> me how to research  (that word again) into the BOM, ways of getting
>> met data from the past  eg if someone wanted to know just what the
>> weather was doing on the day of and just before a record flight was
>> flown how does one start?
>>
>> Ron
>>
>> 2009/11/18 Paul Bart <pb2...@gmail.com>:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 2009/11/18 David Lawley <davidlaw...@hotmail.com>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Anonymity.
>> >>
>> >> MikeB  ignores the perfectly good reasons for anonymity stated in my
>> >> previous post
>> >>
>> >>  I participate in many forums that allow anonymity, and do not see the
>> >> problems you atributre to anonymous postings.
>> >>
>> >> Just because you say iot does not make it true Mike.
>> >
>> > Well generally he never just "say it", the majority of his posts are well
>> > researched and well argued.  On the other hand your posts are neither, but 
>> > I
>> > have noted a strong tendency on your part to categorise people if they do
>> > not agree with your view; "flat earthers" comes to mind.  In my opinion it
>> > is difficult to advance any argument by simply throwing labels and slogans
>> > about..
>> >>
>> >> At no point did you address the issue of those who would not be able to
>> >> state their views if not anonymous.
>> >>
>> >> True freedom of speech sometimes requires anonymity Mike, whether you like
>> >> it or not.
>> >
>> > Well true freedom of speech never requires anonymity, that is why it is
>> > called "freedom of speech". I have spent first 18 years of my life living 
>> > in
>> > a country with a communist regime, so I do know just a bit about the lack 
>> > of
>> > "freedom of speech".  Not sure what argument you would advance to suggest
>> > that there would be any problem exercising your "freedom of speech" on this
>> > list.  Well apart from a fear of posting something stupid I guess.
>> >>
>> >> Matt please do not leave the group because of the ranting of someone who
>> >> has little support for the unpleasant
>> >> attack he has made on you in recent posts. Mike does not speak for the
>> >> whole group, in fact I doubt many support his view at all.
>> >
>> > And how do you know what the level of support for Mike's, or anyone else 
>> > for
>> > that matter, is? It is well documented that only a small portion of people
>> > that are members post.  So I am interested in how can you make such an
>> > assertion.  And lets not hide behind the statement "I doubt", the intent of
>> > your post is quite clear.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Paul B
>> >
>> >
>> >
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