Re: [Aus-soaring] Re: Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 11, Issue 43

2004-08-23 Thread stuart smith
unfortunately, you are more likely to feel euphoria that poorly, thats the whole problem. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 9:15 PM Subject: [Aus-soaring] Re: Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 11, Issue 43 > Re: laws & litagation.

Re: [Aus-soaring] Re: Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 11, Issue 43

2004-08-23 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 09:15 PM 23/08/04 +1000, you wrote: >Re: laws & litagation. Well said, Mike! Please lets not forget that freedom is paramount in our sport- hence the large number of airline and military pilots- and restrictive legislation and laws should be spat at quickly. Who cares if someone misses their bad

Re: [Aus-soaring] Re: Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 11, Issue 43

2004-08-23 Thread Robert Hart
On Tue, 2004-08-24 at 07:17, Mike Borgelt wrote: > At 09:15 PM 23/08/04 +1000, you wrote: > > Re: laws & litagation. Well said, Mike! Please lets not forget that > > freedom is paramount in our sport > I really wish freedom was paramount in gliding. Come on guys - get real, or are you trying to r

Re: [Aus-soaring] Re: Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 11, Issue 43

2004-08-23 Thread Mark Newton
Robert Hart wrote: If you want to argue that gliding is currently over-policed, please go ahead and do so, with clear arguments allied to a few verifiable facts, together with suggested changes. Ask Cathy Conway about her recent experiences with regulation in Germany. Suffice to say that Australia

RE: [Aus-soaring] Re: Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 11, Issue 43

2004-08-24 Thread Christopher H Thorpe
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Newton Sent: Tuesday, 24 August 2004 12:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Re: Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 11, Issue 43 Mark

Re: [Aus-soaring] Re: Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 11, Issue 43

2004-08-24 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 12:25 PM 24/08/04 +0930, Mark Newton wrote: The most eloquent, damning critique of the nanny state and those who support it that I have read recently. Wow! Congratulations! Mike Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax Int'l + 61 74

RE: [Aus-soaring] Re: Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 11, Issue 43

2004-08-24 Thread L Hoffman
24 August 2004 5:55 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring inAustralia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Re: Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 11, Issue 43 At 12:25 PM 24/08/04 +0930, Mark Newton wrote: The most eloquent, damning critique of the nanny state and those who support it that I have read

RE: [Aus-soaring] Re: Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 11, Issue 43

2004-08-24 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 06:06 PM 24/08/04 +1000, you wrote: > >There is an old saying about never saying 'never'... >Mark is correct in that in the 1980's there were no >warning signs at gliding sites. > >It was during that decade that a Supreme Court action >arose against an Australian gliding club and some of >its i

Re: [Aus-soaring] Re: Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 11, Issue 43

2004-08-24 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 12:25 PM 24/08/04 +0930, you wrote: >If you want to think about whether gliding is over-policed, consider >that the GFA operations panel has now been talking for nearly three >years about whether half-wind speed should be added on downwind leg or >base leg. > >Personally I think that's a pretty

RE: [Aus-soaring] Re: Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 11, Issue 43

2004-08-24 Thread Rob & Colleen Moore
This may not have been the case but a Woman was Killed after being struck by a glider after walking across a gliding strip at the Long Mynd in England. At 07:37 PM 24/08/2004 +1000, you wrote: At 06:06 PM 24/08/04 +1000, you wrote: > >There is an old saying about never saying 'never'... >Mark is

RE: [Aus-soaring] Re: Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 11, Issue 43

2004-08-24 Thread Matthew Gage
ring Digest, Vol 11, Issue 43 This may not have been the case but a Woman was Killed after being struck by a glider after walking across a gliding strip at the Long Mynd in England. At 07:37 PM 24/08/2004 +1000, you wrote: >At 06:06 PM 24/08/04 +1000, you wrote: > > > >There is an old

Re: [Aus-soaring] Re: Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 11, Issue 43

2004-08-24 Thread Mark Newton
Matthew Gage wrote: Having ignored a site briefing and signs I rest my case. - mark I tried an internal modem,[EMAIL PROTECTED] but it hurt when I walked. Mark Newton -

RE: [Aus-soaring] Re: Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 11, Issue 43

2004-08-28 Thread Graeme Cant
From: "Christopher H Thorpe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> There was an accident of this nature in the UK on 3 July 1998 (refer AAIB Bulletin No: 10/98 Ref: EW/C98/7/1). I don't know whether litigation ensued but the AAIB recommended that the British Gliding Association publicise the circumstances surroun