Re: [aus-soaring] Safety of flying vs. driving

2001-06-20 Thread Richard Friday
Driving vs flying. Safety. I think that the sheer number of passenger car Km/hours travelled p.a. divided into the number of road fatalities would easily demonstrate that car travel is statistically safer than flying a glider. Consider this as a method of measurement. NOTE: I made ALL of these nu

Re: [aus-soaring] Safety of flying vs. driving

2001-06-20 Thread Graham Parker
Catherine Conway wrote: > > Good point. > > Kinda like why Volvo drivers have more accidents. > > Signed "A cyclist" > > Yeah Andrew but you ride a MOTORcycle - those of us on pushbikes have > to watchout for you as well ;-) > > -Cath Actually, Cath, I've seen him around town on his bic

RE: [aus-soaring] Safety of flying vs. driving

2001-06-20 Thread Stuart & Kerri Ferguson
all in the air. SDF -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of ANDREW WRIGHT Sent: Wednesday, 20 June 2001 16:24 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [aus-soaring] Safety of flying vs. driving Well done Allan This is the type of eviden

RE: [aus-soaring] Safety of flying vs. driving

2001-06-19 Thread ANDREW WRIGHT
Well done Allan This is the type of evidence I've been looking for. Take the emotion out, put some hard cold facts in there and you will win the argument everytime. I could now change my line to "It's "almost" as safe as driving to the airfield" > I throw these figures in for informat

Re: [aus-soaring] Safety of flying vs. driving

2001-06-19 Thread Catherine Conway
> Good point. > Kinda like why Volvo drivers have more accidents. > Signed "A cyclist" Yeah Andrew but you ride a MOTORcycle - those of us on pushbikes have to watchout for you as well ;-) -Cath -- -- * You are subscribed to the aus-soaring mailing list. * To Unsubscribe: send emai

RE: [aus-soaring] Safety of flying vs. driving

2001-06-19 Thread Armistead, Allan
o da Vinci, 1452-1519. -Original Message- From: Wendouree Water Treatment [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 20 June 2001 11:38 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [aus-soaring] Safety of flying vs. driving Andrew, please get real and stop propogating this urban myth about compari

Re: [aus-soaring] Safety of flying vs. driving

2001-06-19 Thread ANDREW WRIGHT
Good point. Kinda like why Volvo drivers have more accidents. Signed "A cyclist" > One of the things that gliding could do to reduce the accident > rate at competitions is to ban the use of parachutes. > > Pete > > -- * You are subscribed to the aus-soaring mailing list. * To

Re: [aus-soaring] Safety of flying vs. driving

2001-06-19 Thread ANDREW WRIGHT
that it is, but please do not represent it as safer than > motoring, as to continue to do so is blatantly dishonest. > > Fly safely > Bob Ward > ----- Original Message - > From: ANDREW WRIGHT > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 5:38 PM >

Re: [aus-soaring] Safety of flying vs. driving

2001-06-19 Thread Peter Rundle
One of the things that gliding could do to reduce the accident rate at competitions is to ban the use of parachutes. Pete -- * You are subscribed to the aus-soaring mailing list. * To Unsubscribe: send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] * with "unsubscribe aus-soaring" in the body of the messag

RE: [aus-soaring] Safety of flying vs. driving

2001-06-19 Thread Michael Texler
It also depends upon the state of the road to the airfield!   At AUGC, the 10 km dirt road from Lochiel has written off at least four (if not five) cars over the last 13 years (many accidents being vehicle rollovers at notorious corners). Fortunately no one has been seriously injured! (i kn

Re: [aus-soaring] Safety of flying vs. driving

2001-06-19 Thread Wendouree Water Treatment
esent it as safer than motoring, as to continue to do so is blatantly dishonest.   Fly safely Bob Ward - Original Message - From: ANDREW WRIGHT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [aus-soaring] Safety of flying vs. driving Micha

RE: [aus-soaring] Safety of flying vs. driving

2001-06-19 Thread David Conway
I had this argument from our insurance company When I actually managed to speak to someone in their underwriting section (as apposed to their sales droids) and asked them who would they rather insure - a pilot who wasn't very current who did say 20 hours a year, or someone who flew most weekends

RE: [aus-soaring] Safety of flying vs. driving

2001-06-19 Thread ANDREW WRIGHT
Ah Touche' Michael Good evidence such as Mike Borgelts argument and this insurance argument could sway me on this one. Insurance companies are no mugs. Do they do base thier premimums on a statistical measure of risk and do insurance premiums reflect the real risk? Is there more to insuranc

RE: [aus-soaring] Safety of flying vs. driving

2001-06-19 Thread Michael Texler
Casting my mind back, I reckon Emilis did an analysis (4-5 years ago?)of the same question and his article appeared in AG. I will have to look back through the old magazines. Safety should also include non-fatal but serious accidents (since having someone permanently disabled for the rest of th

Re: [aus-soaring] Safety of flying vs. driving

2001-06-19 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 05:08 PM 19/06/01 CST, you wrote: >Michael or others > I am interested in this thread and would like to know if anyone has ever >done any research into whether it is "Statistically" safer to fly a >sailplane than drive a car. I strongly believe and will continue to tell >people that y

Re: [aus-soaring] Safety of flying vs. driving

2001-06-19 Thread David Olsen
REW WRIGHT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [aus-soaring] Safety of flying vs. driving Michael or othersI am interested in this thread and would like to know if anyone has ever done any research into whether it is "Statistically&

Re: [aus-soaring] Safety of flying vs. driving

2001-06-19 Thread Graeme Cant
Andrew, I probably won't be the only one to mention a talk by Burn (Bruno) Gantenbrik on your exact theme - is the drive to the field the most dangerous thing in gliding - on the DG website at: http://www.dgflugzeugbau.de/safety-comes-first-e.html. It's an after-dinner speech so it's hardly a

Re: [aus-soaring] Safety of flying vs. driving

2001-06-19 Thread ANDREW WRIGHT
Michael or others I am interested in this thread and would like to know if anyone has ever done any research into whether it is "Statistically" safer to fly a sailplane than drive a car. I strongly believe and will continue to tell people that you are more at risk on the road than in a sailpla