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From:
Geoff
Kidd
To: Discussion of issues relating
to Soaring in Australia.
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 4:43
PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [Aus-soaring] FLARM and
Winpilot
Harry
Do you think all of these points,
that you have
2:20
PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [Aus-soaring] FLARM and
Winpilot
Peter and Mandy,Many thanks for the web page based
reports. Mountain flying is certainly a different skill to those which we
acquire flying cross country in Australia and I expect success is much
more highly dependent on
Peter and Mandy,
Many thanks for the web page based reports. Mountain flying is certainly a
different skill to those which we acquire flying cross country in Australia
and I expect success is much more highly dependent on local knowledge . What
you have learned this time must be of inestimable
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Hart
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 8:33 AM
To: Soaring in Australia
Subject: Re: Fw: [Aus-soaring] FLARM
Hi
I've just been catching up on the Mobile SeeYou forums and it appears
that mobile SeeYou (runs on an IPAQ pda in cockpit connected t
05 8:33 AM
To: Soaring in Australia
Subject: Re: Fw: [Aus-soaring] FLARM
Hi
I've just been catching up on the Mobile SeeYou forums and it appears
that mobile SeeYou (runs on an IPAQ pda in cockpit connected to a GPS
source) is being set up to connect to FLARM and to interpret the
collisi
your reaction.
Regards
Geoff
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From: "Peter and Mandy Temple" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'"
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 5:20 PM
Subject: RE: Fw: [Aus-soaring] FLARM and Winpilot
: Soaring in Australia
Subject: Re: Fw: [Aus-soaring] FLARM
Hi
I've just been catching up on the Mobile SeeYou forums and it appears
that mobile SeeYou (runs on an IPAQ pda in cockpit connected to a GPS
source) is being set up to connect to FLARM and to interpret the
collision warning
Hi
I've just been catching up on the Mobile SeeYou forums and it appears
that mobile SeeYou (runs on an IPAQ pda in cockpit connected to a GPS
source) is being set up to connect to FLARM and to interpret the
collision warning NMEA sentences that FLARM creates, so Mobile SeeYou will
indeed see
Rules
simpler.
Enjoy your flying and keep a good lookout!
Bob Henderson
President, IGC
July 24th, 2005
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From: "Geoff Kidd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia."
Sent: Wednes
in Australia."
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: [Aus-soaring] FLARM
Attached is an snapshot from Sailplane and Gliding on FLARM. The install
base is higher according to this.
/daveb
Graeme Cant wrote:
From: "Geoff Kidd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
now.
Chris McDonnell
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From:
Geoff
Kidd
To: Discussion of issues relating
to Soaring in Australia.
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: [Aus-soaring]
FLARM
No problem Bernard. I'll pinch
the big mirror out of the dining
Wednesday, July 13, 2005 6:06
PM
Subject: RE: Fw: [Aus-soaring]
FLARM
Hello
Geoff
Tests conducted by
the manufacturer indicate that the shiny surface
of
a modern glider acts
as a reflector and greatly enhances the overall
effectiveness of a strobe light
(fitte
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Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [Aus-soaring] FLARM
At 06:22 PM 13/07/05 +1000, you wrote:
I seem to remember reading of a series of flight tests on gliders
using
strobe lamps - was it published on the DG website or newsletter? I
forget.
A couple of year
At 06:22 PM 13/07/05 +1000, you wrote:
> I seem to remember reading of a series of flight tests on gliders using
>strobe lamps - was it published on the DG website or newsletter? I forget.
>A couple of years ago.lights in sunlight was ineffectual in improving
>visibility. Does anyone els
mobile
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Sent: Tuesday, 12 July 2005 9:35
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To: Discussion of issues relating
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Subject: Re: Fw: [Aus-soaring]
FLARM
Thanks for
that Bernard,
I will trial the unit at the farm at distances
At 11:27 AM 12/07/05 +1000, you wrote:
>Mike, this might shed a little light on your question.
>
> I cut this out of
>http://www.parliament.vic.gov.au/rsc/1992cycle/mbch2.html
>
Thanks Peter, well done.
Mike
Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments
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1. Nearness in place; neighborhood; proximity.
2. Nearness in time.
Chris McDonnell
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From: "Peter Creswick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia."
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 10:38 AM
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Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: [Aus-soaring] FLARM
Another one worth a read.
http://www.optometrists.asn.au/gui/files/ceo874258.pdf
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From: "Peter Creswick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Another one worth a read.
http://www.optometrists.asn.au/gui/files/ceo874258.pdf
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From: "Peter Creswick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia."
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 11:08 AM
Subject: R
iscussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia."
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: [Aus-soaring] FLARM
At 10:05 AM 12/07/05 +1000, you wrote:
Thanks for that Bernard, & the visibility, before fitting it to
the ASW 28. That way I can return it
y 12, 2005 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: [Aus-soaring] FLARM
At 10:05 AM 12/07/05 +1000, you wrote:
Thanks for that Bernard, & the visibility, before fitting it to
the ASW 28. That way I can return it in good condition and without
drilling holes, if the light isn't outstan
At 10:05 AM 12/07/05 +1000, you wrote:
> Thanks for that Bernard, & the visibility, before fitting it to
>the ASW 28. That way I can return it in good condition and without
>drilling holes, if the light isn't outstanding in bright daylight.
>Does anyone in this forum know wh
At 09:24 AM 12/07/05 +0930, you wrote:
>Hello Geoff
>
>You are most welcome to trial the flashlight.
>If you don't like it you simply return it to me.
>Otherwise you submit EUR 278.
>
>How does that sound to you?
>
>Bernard Eckey
>FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD.
>10 Antigua Grove
>West Lakes 5021
>Adelai
TD.
To: 'Discussion of issues
relating to Soaring in Australia.'
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 9:54
AM
Subject: RE: Fw: [Aus-soaring]
FLARM
Hello GeoffYou are most welcome to trial the
flashlight.If you don't like it you simply return it to me.Otherwise
you subm
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoff
Kidd
Sent: Wednesday, 6 July 2005 10:03 AM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: Fw: [Aus-soaring] FLARM
Bernard,
If Peter doesn&#
At 10:57 AM 7/07/05 +0930, you wrote:
> Hi Mike It seems to me that there are two options available to us.
>Option 1 is to install Flarm. The problem is that it only works when we
>equip every aircraft with this system. In the absence of corresponding
>regulations this will (unfortunate
'll be in it.
Graeme Cant
Geoff
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To:
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [Aus-soaring] FLARM
>From: "Geoff Kidd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I made a short movie to s
'll be in it.
Graeme Cant
Geoff
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To:
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [Aus-soaring] FLARM
>From: "Geoff Kidd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I made a short movie to s
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: Fw: [Aus-soaring] FLARM
Bernard,
If Peter doesn't take up your kind offer, I will offer to be the pig
(Guinea).
Regards
Geoff
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From: "FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD." <[EMAIL PROTECTE
Well Bernard, how about telling us what the average and peak current draw
of the device is and what is the power of the light during the on time?
How does this compare with conventional strobes?
Mike
Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments
phone Int'l + 61 746 355784
.
Subject: Re: Fw: [Aus-soaring] FLARM
Bernard,
If Peter doesn't take up your kind offer, I will offer to be the pig
(Guinea).
Regards
Geoff
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To: "'Discussion of issues relating to
Title: RE: Fw: [Aus-soaring] FLARM
Hi Mike
It seems to me that there are two options available to us.
Option 1 is to install Flarm.
The problem is that it only works when we equip every aircraft
with this system. In the absence of corresponding regulations
this will (unfortunately
]>
To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia."
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 7:24 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: [Aus-soaring] FLARM
Graeme,
I haven't bought one (yet) as they are just nose ballast unless a
reasonable
proportion of others have them.
Bernard's poi
quot;Graeme Cant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [Aus-soaring] FLARM
>From: "Geoff Kidd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I made a short movie to show how the new FLARM display works :
http://depechy.free.fr/flarm/FLARM_Rennes_
From: "Geoff Kidd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I made a short movie to show how the new FLARM display works :
http://depechy.free.fr/flarm/FLARM_Rennes_050527.wmv
Geoff
Geoff,
How much did your new FLARM uniit cost you and when are you taking delivery?
Graeme Cant
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At 01:40 PM 6/07/05 +1000, you wrote:
>On Wed, 06 Jul 2005 11:09:19 +1000, you wrote:
>
>> At 09:12 AM 6/07/05 +0930, you wrote:
>>>Hi Peter
>>>
>>>I can get these flashlights through a friend of mine.
>>>He is even making one available for trails.
>>>I will find out how much they cost and will g
On Wed, 06 Jul 2005 11:09:19 +1000, you wrote:
> At 09:12 AM 6/07/05 +0930, you wrote:
>>Hi Peter
>>
>>I can get these flashlights through a friend of mine.
>>He is even making one available for trails.
>>I will find out how much they cost and will get back to you.
>>If you like, you can be the
At 09:12 AM 6/07/05 +0930, you wrote:
>Hi Peter
>
>I can get these flashlights through a friend of mine.
>He is even making one available for trails.
>I will find out how much they cost and will get back to you.
>If you like, you can be the guinea pig and pay me when you
>are happy.
>
>The flas
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: Fw: [Aus-soaring] FLARM
Hi Peter
I can get these flashlights through a friend of mine.
He is even making one available for trails.
I will find out how much they cost and will get back to you.
If you like, you can be the guinea pig and p
42 a.m.
To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
Subject: RE: Fw: [Aus-soaring] FLARM
Hi Peter
I can get these flashlights through a friend of mine.
He is even making one available for trails.
I will find out how much they cost and will get back to you.
If you
: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: RE: Fw: [Aus-soaring] FLARM
Sounds good Bernard,
Where can they be purchased, how much do they cost and how much current
do they draw?
Regards
Peter
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At 07:54 AM 6/07/05 +0930, you wrote:
>Hi Mike
>
>Of course, they are pulsed. Two quick flashes in close
>succession followed by a break of around one second.
>
>Very simple, but highly effective.
>
>Bernard Eckey
So how do they compare in brightness to strobes? Dick Johnson did some
strobe testi
At 11:36 AM 5/07/05 +1000, you wrote:
>
>The danger that concerns me is what happens in the period between two
>sailplanes on a parallel track becoming a collision solution when one of
>them turns. During this period the two fail to see a beacon for say 5-8
>seconds, a lot of ground is covered i
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Borgelt
Sent: Tuesday, 5 July 2005 5:58 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring inAustralia.
Subject: RE: Fw: [Aus-soaring] FLARM
At 01:44 PM 5/07/05 +0930, you wrote:
>Wh
;Discussion of issues relating to Soaring inAustralia."
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 6:28 PM
Subject: RE: Fw: [Aus-soaring] FLARM
At 01:44 PM 5/07/05 +0930, you wrote:
While attending the AERO trade fair in Germany earlier this year, I
learned about the terrible mid-air statistics in Eur
At 01:44 PM 5/07/05 +0930, you wrote:
>While attending the AERO trade fair in Germany earlier this year, I
>learned about the terrible mid-air statistics in Europe. While flying
>over the Alps, and while almost permanently in close proximity of other
>gliders, I resolved to install high intensity L
"'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'"
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 12:46 PM
Subject: RE: Fw: [Aus-soaring] FLARM
Geoff is right, you need more than just a position report, you have to do
the calculations and provide a quick reference alert which the uniden
Geoff Kidd wrote:
Nigel
Did you see the reply on the other thread from a Pilot in Europe who has
almost every product from Harvey Norman in his cockpit and he reports no
spurious alarms.
Regards
Geoff
On that particular day, with just those particular products, with the
cables in just t
on of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
Subject: RE: Fw: [Aus-soaring] FLARM
Hi all
Sean, after such a subtle invitation I'm happy to pass on my thoughts on
prevention of mid-airs, Flarm and other safety enhancing devices.
Looking closely at Flarm I have come to the conclusion that
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Sent: Tuesday, 5 July 2005 7:48 AM
To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
Subject: Re: Fw: [Aus-soaring] FLARM
I too want to be safe, however, I would be somewhat concerned if we just
decided to implement something like this without somebody provi
delete it from your computer system
network.
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Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 11:16 AM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: Fw: [Aus-soaring] FLARM
Mark
It sound
It sounds like I'm working for Flarm ... which I am NOT. The big
difference appears to be that the Flarm calculates the likelihood of
converging tracks and alarms if this is the case ... then the unit will
also locate the position of the other target to within 45 degrees or so
as indicated by
g to Soaring in Australia.'"
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 10:59 AM
Subject: RE: Fw: [Aus-soaring] FLARM
I will probably get shot down on this one, as I haven't been following
the FLARM thread closely, but...
Isn't this http://www.octapc.com.au/category701_1.htm that i
I will probably get shot down on this one, as I haven't been following
the FLARM thread closely, but...
Isn't this http://www.octapc.com.au/category701_1.htm that is, the
Uniden GPS205 something close in functionality to FLARM if the data was
TX'd on a regular basis, and Altitude was
At 10:17 AM 5/07/05 +1000, you wrote:
>In a situation like this the system needs to be formally analyzed &
>tested under in-field conditions to provide ANY useful comments on its
>performance.
I wonder if the guy who invented the wheel did this? Likely he just went
out and used it.
I'd rather j
05, 2005 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: [Aus-soaring] FLARM
While it is only a tiny sample, it is very positive.
I suggest that to not implement a system because it will encourage bad
scanning habits and stop pilots looking out of the cockpit, is an
incorrect argument. We will never have a situat
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At 01:56 PM 4/07/05 +1000, you wrote:
I have initiated and am in the midst of a thread on
report good
results.
Regards
Geoff
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To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia."
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: [Aus-soaring] FLARM
Is it a fact that the sp
While it is only a tiny sample, it is very positive.
I suggest that to not implement a system because it will encourage bad
scanning habits and stop pilots looking out of the cockpit, is an
incorrect argument. We will never have a situation where all aircraft
are equipped, so a good lookout
From: "jorgie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: [Aus-soaring] FLARM
Geoff,
I in now way indicated that we should not implement something like this.
As Mandy Temple pointed out she and Peter are on their way to France and
will be flyin
Is it a fact that the spectrum is available or not?
Of course it is. Every wireless device attached to your PC uses it as well
as your microwave oven.
And your long range cordless phone, and your garage door opener, and
your WiFi modem, and your wireless irrigation controller, and your l
ave Aussies competing in Europe at the moment. I wonder what they will
>
say about Flarm when they get back?
>
>
Regards
>
>
>
>
>
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>
From: "jorgie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
To:
>
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 8:
the moment. I wonder what they will
say about Flarm when they get back?
Regards
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To:
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: [Aus-soaring] FLARM
I too want to be safe, however, I would be some
At 08:17 AM 5/07/05 +1000, you wrote:
>I too want to be safe, however, I would be somewhat concerned if we just
decided to implement something like this without somebody providing some
scientific results of it's use.
Even though midairs are considered a problem, doing any meaningful stats on
this
t;
>
Geoff
>
>
>
>
>
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>
To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring inAustralia."
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>
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 4:08 PM
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e Borgelt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring inAustralia."
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [Aus-soaring] FLARM
At 01:56 PM 4/07/05 +1000, you wrote:
I have initiated and am in the midst of a thread on The Glider Forum
where
At 01:56 PM 4/07/05 +1000, you wrote:
>
>>I have initiated and am in the midst of a thread on The Glider Forum where
>> European pilots speak of Flarm in glowing terms ... both in the Mountains
>> and the Flatlands.
>>
>> It appears that the IGC has not banned its use and 2 pilots report good
>>
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