[AusNOG] Brisbane Drinks - Open invite

2018-09-06 Thread Sean Finn
Hi All, It's been far too long between drinks for the Brisbane folks, especially those that didn't make the southern AusNOG conference this year. In the spirit of inclusion, a bunch of us are meeting for beers @ RiverBar in Brisbane at 5pm Wednesday the 12th of September. We are not sponsored (y

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-09-06 Thread Paul Wilkins
Whether the bill meets its objectives (whatever they may be), and whether the bill passes in its present form is still very much a moot point. I would however underline that once the bill passes, it won't be possible to assess if the bill meets its objectives or not given the lack of checks and ba

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-09-06 Thread Peter Fern
On 6/9/18 6:20 pm, Paul Wilkins wrote: > Not for profits still rely on a revenue stream. Time will tell. This sort of hand-waving is how we end up in trouble - now would be the time for some critical thinking about whether this bill even has a chance of achieving the stated goals, and these exampl

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-09-06 Thread Paul Wilkins
Not for profits still rely on a revenue stream. Time will tell. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 at 17:28, wrote: > On Thu, 6 Sep 2018, Paul Wilkins wrote: > > > 1 - I take a dim view of the implied bad faith. You need to have a > > think about the implications of what you're sayin

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-09-06 Thread trs80
On Thu, 6 Sep 2018, Paul Wilkins wrote: > 1 - I take a dim view of the implied bad faith. You need to have a > think about the implications of what you're saying before posting in a > public space. Perhaps you are not familiar with Mark's comments on similar issues in the past? > 2 - Per the