Re: [AusNOG] Remote Hands - Adelaide

Thanks Guys. Ausnog has come through again. Have my sites sorted. Dave From: AusNOG On Behalf Of David Phelan Sent: Monday, 29 October 2018 3:45 PM To: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net Subject: [AusNOG] Remote Hands - Adelaide Hey Nooggers, Looking for some remote hands to do a job for us in Adelaide.

Re: [AusNOG] Are domain name server pointers reliant on registrar name server?

@Peter - "Can't you just point the resolvers on the box to another recursor" Well you can and as mentioned we are. But just like your PC, you can set any recursor you want, it will still use it's own hosts file and DNS cache before bothering going to a recursor. If you're PC thinks it knows the ans

Re: [AusNOG] Remote Hands - Adelaide

Hi Paul, I have a client in Wingfield that needs a trace and probably jumpering for a NBN service. The client is not sure what goes where etc….. Is that something that you can help with? Dave From: Paul Vinton Sent: Monday, 29 October 2018 3:52 PM To: David Phelan ; ausnog@lists.ausnog.net S

Re: [AusNOG] Remote Hands - Adelaide

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[AusNOG] Remote Hands - Adelaide

Hey Nooggers, Looking for some remote hands to do a job for us in Adelaide. Have a couple of routers that we need plugged in a client site. Can interested parties ping me off list 😊 Thanks in advance. Kind Regards, David Phelan [Centra-Blue] 1300 136 410 dav...@cent

Re: [AusNOG] Are domain name server pointers reliant on registrar name server?

On 29/10/18 3:54 pm, Bradley Silverman wrote: @Peter - Hey mate, I never said our nameservers would server records, I said the server itself would not go looking as it would assume that as it hosts the website, and has DNS records, that it itself is authoritative. This is basically how all Cont

Re: [AusNOG] Are domain name server pointers reliant on registrar name server?

Hi Peter, This scenario has happened a lot in the past before having dedicated hosting DNS servers where DNS functions were shared for hosting and recursive lookups. I suspect it still happens in smaller organisations where a client delegates the name servers to new authoritative DNS serv

Re: [AusNOG] Are domain name server pointers reliant on registrar name server?

@Peter - Hey mate, I never said our nameservers would server records, I said the server itself would not go looking as it would assume that as it hosts the website, and has DNS records, that it itself is authoritative. This is basically how all Control Panel like systems function (cPanel, Plesk etc

Re: [AusNOG] Are domain name server pointers reliant on registrar name server?

This is something that I have regularly seen with cPanel servers, where if a local server is looking for www.example.com and it sees that the cPanel DNS within that cluster contain a zone for example.com, it will not look any further as it considers it "authoritative", al

Re: [AusNOG] Are domain name server pointers reliant on registrar name server?

This is indeed a confusing response. Why does your nameserver have records for a domain it does not host?  If a user has delegated their DNS away to some other nameservers, you should not be serving any records from your nameservers, so the described scenario should never happen. Sounds like a

Re: [AusNOG] Are domain name server pointers reliant on registrar name server?

Hi Matt, To answer your specific question, no they wouldn't. BUT there is an exception: If your site was hosting with us it does add one small layer of complexity, which often trips people up. Servers are very arrogant, and assume they are the be all and end all. So for instance, let's say you a

Re: [AusNOG] Are domain name server pointers reliant on registrar name server?

> From my understanding, this is how it works: > > > 1. Your PC is browsing to http://www.ventraip.com.au > 2. The DNS looks at the root nameservers for . (yes, a single period) who > then > 3. Forwards the request on to the .au nameservers (operated by Afilias) > who then > 4. Forw

Re: [AusNOG] Are domain name server pointers reliant on registrar name server?

The PC sends a recursive request to the recursive server. The recursive server sends the query to the best match name servers it has knowledge of with the root servers being the servers of last resort. Those servers either know the answer or return a referral to a closer set of servers. This

Re: [AusNOG] Are domain name server pointers reliant on registrar name server?

Hi Matt, >From my understanding, this is how it works: 1. Your PC is browsing to http://www.ventraip.com.au 2. The DNS looks at the root nameservers for . (yes, a single period) who then 3. Forwards the request on to the .au nameservers (operated by Afilias) who then 4. Forwards t

Re: [AusNOG] Are domain name server pointers reliant on registrar name server?

Hey Bradley, Thanks for your answer. So assuming I'm not using you for DNS hosting (e.g. using a third party like CloudFlare or AWS Route53) then would your name servers ever be involved in DNS queries for my domain? -Matt On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 10:13 AM Bradley Silverman < bsilver...@staff.ven

Re: [AusNOG] Are domain name server pointers reliant on registrar name server?

Hi Matt, A lot of confusing answers in here, even to me and this is my job to understand them. To answer your exact question without filler information: Your registrar (Synergy Wholesale, TPP Wholesale, NetRegistry) need to have the Nameserver records (ns1.server.net and ns2.server.net) for the d

Re: [AusNOG] Are domain name server pointers reliant on registrar name server?

On 28/10/2018 10:40 PM, James Deck wrote: > clevvi.com.au. 900 IN RRSIG DS 8 3 900 20181115151738 20181025141738 14968 > com.au. UcsGcFhCMtVMJSNBXOoZ9NSEa0W4KttcVJem5dOQm1LVk3svXNSalpKS > ON0Szj1CHEX/uPSPR1QmXgqOV/r5nY8Kvbaj7HvW3XVJ8dW7p8oqgdq7 > AD5EICDJdTkmn92B9QfrJh2b/1t5DgkzFd1PcV/E3DI98q

Re: [AusNOG] Are domain name server pointers reliant on registrar name server?

Right, so for the sake of clarity as I understand it from the responses - I'm reliant on root, auDA and Afilias name servers but NOT my registrar e.g. Synergy Wholesale, TPP Wholesale, NetRegistry etc On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 5:59 AM Peter Fern wrote: > On 28/10/18 11:58 pm, Chad Kelly wrote:

Re: [AusNOG] Are domain name server pointers reliant on registrar name server?

On 28/10/18 11:58 pm, Chad Kelly wrote: On 10/28/2018 11:10 PM, ausnog-requ...@lists.ausnog.net wrote: The original post was asking if the registrar is relied upon here (and the answer is no). But the nameservers themselves still need to be listed at the registrar level so that they can be fou

Re: [AusNOG] Are domain name server pointers reliant on registrar name server?

On 10/28/2018 11:10 PM, ausnog-requ...@lists.ausnog.net wrote: The original post was asking if the registrar is relied upon here (and the answer is no). But the nameservers themselves still need to be listed at the registrar level so that they can be found on the public internet. Otherwise you

Re: [AusNOG] Are domain name server pointers reliant on registrar name server?

Thanks, Mal. My syntax could have been clearer. Probably should have said, "The list of name servers that are authoritative for your domain are provided by parent DNS servers, such as the registry operator (which in turn are provided by the root servers)." The original post was asking if the re

Re: [AusNOG] Are domain name server pointers reliant on registrar name server?

On 28/10/2018 9:25 PM, James Deck wrote: > > Authoritative name servers are provided by DNS services managed by the > registry operator (and not the registrar). > Not correct. Anyone can run there own Authoritative name servers for a domain. This may be you OR your registry. The Nameserver

Re: [AusNOG] Are domain name server pointers reliant on registrar name server?

Hi Matt, Authoritative name servers are provided by DNS services managed by the registry operator (and not the registrar). In the .com.au domain space, you are reliant on: 1) The root servers, which point to the nameservers for .au 2) auDA’s nameservers, which point to the namese

Re: [AusNOG] Are domain name server pointers reliant on registrar name server?

I built the below DNS training page for Techs, Clients and Web Devs many years ago to simplify explaining DNS. I got sick of the fact I could not find ALL the info for basic DNS training simplified in a single location. It denotes that the DNS name servers should be the same in 3 different location

[AusNOG] Are domain name server pointers reliant on registrar name server?

Hi All, Just a quick question. Say I have a domain mydomain.com who's authoritative name servers are ns1.server.net and ns2.server.net Are these name server entries for my domain stored by my registrar or are they stored somewhere upstream and merely updated by my registrar? Putting it another w