Re: [AusNOG] IP Transit provider Caching content providers with their own ASN and IP's

2019-07-02 Thread Jonathan Brewer
Hi All, While Matt Jansen was at Akamai he had a great talk on traffic engineering for CDNs: https://www.slideshare.net/bdnog/traffic-engineering-for-cdns-54701924 I sat his tutorial at bdNOG3 & it was totally worthwhile. Cheers, Jon On Wed, 3 Jul 2019 at 07:58, Bruce Forster wrote: > Tom,

Re: [AusNOG] IP Transit provider Caching content providers with their own ASN and IP's

2019-07-02 Thread Bruce Forster
Tom, although technically correct its not really in the interest of the transit provider to do this. If they chose to stop sending the prefixes to the cache, it doesn't mean that all of a sudden it will now route via Peering. You may find it still comes in to the network via iptransit but on a pat

Re: [AusNOG] IP Transit provider Caching content providers with their own ASN and IP's

2019-07-02 Thread Damien Gardner Jnr
Well, since his actual account is moderated :) On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 at 17:08, Nathan Brookfield < nathan.brookfi...@simtronic.com.au> wrote: > You lost me when your sender name is Thomas Bishop but email address says > Darryl Huges > > On 2 Jul 2019, at 16:53, thomas bishop wrote: > > Hi L

Re: [AusNOG] IP Transit provider Caching content providers with their own ASN and IP's

2019-07-02 Thread Tom Paseka
Your transit provider should provide you with BGP communities. You can tag your routes to the transit not to export to the CDN, which might help steer away. Ask your provider for the BGP Communities. On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 8:49 AM Bruce Forster wrote: > From my perspective; > > 1, You do have

Re: [AusNOG] IP Transit provider Caching content providers with their own ASN and IP's

2019-07-02 Thread Bruce Forster
>From my perspective; 1, You do have a commercial relationship with your upstream not the CDN 2, its in the interest of the upstream to save on costs with the use of cache's on net and other IX's 3, the 'best' path for your network and what the CDN views as best don't always align. I know in the

Re: [AusNOG] IP Transit provider Caching content providers with their own ASN and IP's

2019-07-02 Thread Nathan Brookfield
You lost me when your sender name is Thomas Bishop but email address says Darryl Huges On 2 Jul 2019, at 16:53, thomas bishop wrote: Hi List, This is a bit of a strange one. We have recently signed up with a new IP Transit provider and noticed the usage was a lot higher than our old prov

Re: [AusNOG] IP Transit provider Caching content providers with their own ASN and IP's

2019-07-02 Thread Gavin Tweedie
Which CDN or OTTs are you seeing this for? Almost all of the CDN/OTT networks are happy to work with you to get traffic back over peering links rather than transit. If you'd rather not share on-list, drop me a msg off list and I'm happy to help you find the right CDN/OTT contacts regardless which

[AusNOG] IP Transit provider Caching content providers with their own ASN and IP's

2019-07-01 Thread thomas bishop
Hi List, This is a bit of a strange one. We have recently signed up with a new IP Transit provider and noticed the usage was a lot higher than our old provider. After doing some digging and sflow captures we managed to find out the provider themselves was sending us tonnes of traffic from their