Re: [AusNOG] SORBS DUHL blacklist

2018-11-26 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Peter Tiggerdine wrote: I guess the point I'm making is that SORBS is about getting rid of spam to which their middleware is getting a lot of hits coming from gmail MX's. We can't make a rule that says, if you're big enough then it doesn't apply to you. I agree commerce needs to continue but

Re: [AusNOG] SORBS DUHL blacklist

2018-11-26 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Michael J. Carmody wrote: Because the pressure applied to me by paying clients expecting their emails, is greater than the pressure I exert upon google by rejecting their emails. Maybe I am being too pragmatic for you. Maybe you should try the other trick that I have seen done. Those '

Re: [AusNOG] SORBS DUHL blacklist

2018-10-23 Thread Noel Butler
On 24/10/2018 10:22, Serge Burjak wrote: > Google hosts a couple million domains, large chunk of top 1000 companies > globally, a lot of them your suppliers in one form or another, I think it's > in everyones interests to keep commerce moving. > > It is also in everyones interests to identify

Re: [AusNOG] SORBS DUHL blacklist

2018-10-23 Thread Noel Butler
I have no problem, I loose no sleep over it, it's an extreme piss weak excuse thinking their too big to block, so in your eyes they can be a haven for spammers - which in past 2 months or so they have, and you think thats not their problem... people like you are part of the problem, not the solut

Re: [AusNOG] SORBS DUHL blacklist

2018-10-23 Thread Peter Tiggerdine
I guess the point I'm making is that SORBS is about getting rid of spam to which their middleware is getting a lot of hits coming from gmail MX's. We can't make a rule that says, if you're big enough then it doesn't apply to you. I agree commerce needs to continue but we fight all the time for a l

Re: [AusNOG] SORBS DUHL blacklist

2018-10-23 Thread misterpink
The most amazing part of this for me was learning that SORBS still a thing in 2018, then again blocking Google en mass might just be their swan song… ___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog

Re: [AusNOG] SORBS DUHL blacklist

2018-10-23 Thread Serge Burjak
t;>> >>> -Michael >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Noel >>> Butler >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 October 2018 11:26 PM >>> *To:* ausnog@lists.ausno

Re: [AusNOG] SORBS DUHL blacklist

2018-10-23 Thread Michael J. Carmody
:55 AM To: Scott Wilson Cc: Michael J. Carmody ; ausnog@lists.ausnog.net Subject: Re: [AusNOG] SORBS DUHL blacklist Why do we have the problem if their domain is sending spam exactly? Regards, Peter Tiggerdine GPG Fingerprint: 2A3F EA19 F6C2 93C1 411D 5AB2 D5A8 E8A8 0E74 6127 On Wed, Oct 24

Re: [AusNOG] SORBS DUHL blacklist

2018-10-23 Thread Peter Tiggerdine
ils, and >> will step over my cold corpse to get them. >> >> >> >> -Michael >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Noel >> Butler >> *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 October 2018 11:26 PM &

Re: [AusNOG] SORBS DUHL blacklist

2018-10-23 Thread Scott Wilson
m clients want their emails, and will > step over my cold corpse to get them. > > > > -Michael > > > > > > *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Noel > Butler > *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 October 2018 11:26 PM > *To:* ausnog@l

Re: [AusNOG] SORBS DUHL blacklist

2018-10-23 Thread Michael J. Carmody
2018 11:26 PM To: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net Subject: Re: [AusNOG] SORBS DUHL blacklist On 23/10/2018 15:47, Michael J. Carmody wrote: Gmail may have a SPAM problem, but they are too much of our client traffic to play this game. THERE ^^ lies the problem. with this attitude google et al

Re: [AusNOG] SORBS DUHL blacklist

2018-10-23 Thread Noel Butler
On 23/10/2018 15:42, Scott Wilson wrote: > So, I went to check the MX health of one of the domains I administer, as I'd > made some DMARC, DKIM, and SPF changes - we use gsuite btw: > > blacklist aspmx.l.google.com [1] Blacklisted by SORBS DUHL More Info > > With respect, SORBS, that's your

Re: [AusNOG] SORBS DUHL blacklist

2018-10-23 Thread Noel Butler
On 23/10/2018 15:47, Michael J. Carmody wrote: > Gmail may have a SPAM problem, but they are too much of our client traffic to > play this game. THERE ^^ lies the problem. with this attitude google et al have no incentive to get off their useless arses and fix the problem the more who

Re: [AusNOG] SORBS DUHL blacklist

2018-10-22 Thread Michael J. Carmody
[mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Scott Wilson Sent: Tuesday, 23 October 2018 4:43 PM To: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net Subject: [AusNOG] SORBS DUHL blacklist So, I went to check the MX health of one of the domains I administer, as I'd made some DMARC, DKIM, and SPF changes - we use gsuit

[AusNOG] SORBS DUHL blacklist

2018-10-22 Thread Scott Wilson
So, I went to check the MX health of one of the domains I administer, as I'd made some DMARC, DKIM, and SPF changes - we use gsuite btw: blacklist aspmx.l.google.com Blacklisted by SORBS DUHL More Info With respect, SORBS, that's your problem, not anyone else's.