Re: [AusNOG] Software Defined Routers

2019-10-08 Thread Ben Babich
"Software Defined" is becoming a well marketed term these days, though its true meaning seems open to interpretation for many... Yes, VyOS is merely a Debian based Linux distro with a bunch of config management to wrangle the usual softwares (FRR, swan, dhcpd, lldpd etc) into a complete product

Re: [AusNOG] Software Defined Routers

2019-10-07 Thread Alex Samad
Hi I thought there was some discussion on this list a while back about using x85 VM for BGP cluster - inserting / editing BGP tables where faster in a x86 VM. A On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 at 15:35, Kosh Naranek wrote: > VyOS is more or less just a router. > > I'm fairly certain the remote APIs are

Re: [AusNOG] Software Defined Routers

2019-10-07 Thread Kosh Naranek
VyOS is more or less just a router. I'm fairly certain the remote APIs are still coming soon, but it's been a while since I reconfigured one, the advantage is that it's basically an embedded OS that you can backup the JSON config and in an emergency just boot up a new one and upload the config

Re: [AusNOG] Software Defined Routers

2019-10-05 Thread David Beveridge
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 12:55 PM Rob Thomas wrote: > > Also, VyOS can be managed by Ansible, which is surprisingly cool. > https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/latest/modules/vyos_config_module.html > > Actually pfsense can also be configured using ansible

Re: [AusNOG] Software Defined Routers

2019-10-04 Thread Jason Maude - Fusion Broadband
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Re: [AusNOG] Software Defined Routers

2019-10-04 Thread Tim Raphael
Overall, the article being discussed only does very precursory testing. In my recent adventures of deploying OSS routing for mission critical services, there has to be a mix of raw performance, stability and performance with varied feature-sets (NAT, QoS, Load-Balancing etc). The article above

Re: [AusNOG] Software Defined Routers

2019-10-04 Thread Paul Wilkins
>> "if performance matters (and it does very much so), why would you be using *_anything_* virtualised at all..." Because it's not actually possible to write meaningful SLAs for time multiplexed services. At the end of the day I agree with Brad, if you need a performant system you want resident

Re: [AusNOG] Software Defined Routers

2019-10-04 Thread Rob Thomas
Well, that's kinda the point of actually doing performance tests! 8) If you didn't read the article, using 4 cores of a 7 year old CPU can route 12gbit of traffic at 13% cpu (or 17gbit on a 4 year old CPU), I think the actual data speaks for itself. Unfortunately, after 20gbit, it gets hard to

Re: [AusNOG] Software Defined Routers

2019-10-04 Thread Noel Butler
if performance matters (and it does very much so), why would you be using _ANYTHING_ virtualised at all... On 03/10/2019 23:19, Guy Ellis wrote: > Has anyone bothered to evaluate TNSR which I will think replace pfsense where > performance really matters? -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler

Re: [AusNOG] Software Defined Routers

2019-10-03 Thread Guy Ellis
Has anyone bothered to evaluate TNSR which I will think replace pfsense where performance really matters?  - G. On 3/10/2019 11:12 pm, James Hodgkinson wrote: It's all well and good to hate on pfSense for VOIP issues, and there's workarounds, but is there any equivalent alternative with an

Re: [AusNOG] Software Defined Routers

2019-10-03 Thread James Hodgkinson
It's all well and good to hate on pfSense for VOIP issues, and there's workarounds, but is there any equivalent alternative with an accessible user interface for when you just want to make things work, without having to learn yet ANOTHER domain specific language? I can't see my users getting

Re: [AusNOG] Software Defined Routers

2019-10-02 Thread Ben Hohnke
I know there has been a lot of improvements made to networking in linux over the past few years, however I am very impressed with the Debian and vyos results. I'm interested to see if there is a difference between RHEL based systems vs Debian based systems.. I am surprised at the results in

[AusNOG] Software Defined Routers

2019-10-02 Thread Rob Thomas
I just spammed this all over Twatter and Derpbook, but I just noticed a report on some Virtual Routers, and the speeds are... EXTREMELY unexpected. https://blog.kroy.io/2019/08/23/battle-of-the-virtual-routers Summary: * VyOS can route at 12Gbps at 14% CPU Load * pfSense can route at 2Gbps