Re: config.guess and freedom (was: 1.8 and mkdir_p)

2004-01-13 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On Tue, 2004-01-13 at 18:18, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jan 2004, Bob Proulx wrote: > > > > > If the releases are all that similar, why not use: > > > > > > i686-GnuLinux-* > > > > > > as your test, and provide the "popular" distributions in the 3rd field? > > > > > > The "magic" command

Odd warning

2004-01-13 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Hi, After having upgraded from automake-1.8.1 to automake-1.8.2 (And having modified some Makefile.ams), I received this warning from automake: configure.ac:16: version mismatch. This is Automake 1.8.2, configure.ac:16: but the definition used by this AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE configure.ac:16: comes from

Re: 1.8 and mkdir_p

2004-01-13 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, Scott James Remnant wrote: > On Tue, 2004-01-13 at 21:25, Harlan Stenn wrote: > > > I think you are missing my point. > > > > The information I am talking about is used for *runtime* decisions - very > > likely in a script that is in a shared directory used by many different >

Re: config.guess and freedom (was: 1.8 and mkdir_p)

2004-01-13 Thread Harlan Stenn
I bet you have never tried to deploy this in the real world in an environment with a useful number of heterogeneous OS installations running at different OS rev levels. In my experience this simply doesn't scale. Especially if it gets used in somebody's shell RC files. Your approach still "speci

Re: 1.8 and mkdir_p

2004-01-13 Thread Harlan Stenn
> > I think you are missing my point. > >=20 > > The information I am talking about is used for *runtime* decisions - very > > likely in a script that is in a shared directory used by many different > > architectures. > Oh, well, config.guess isn't designed for that -- it's for compile time > dec

Re: 1.8 and mkdir_p

2004-01-13 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Tue, 2004-01-13 at 21:25, Harlan Stenn wrote: > I think you are missing my point. > > The information I am talking about is used for *runtime* decisions - very > likely in a script that is in a shared directory used by many different > architectures. > Oh, well, config.guess isn't designed fo

Internal Error

2004-01-13 Thread Patrick Welche
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Re: config.guess and freedom (was: 1.8 and mkdir_p)

2004-01-13 Thread Harlan Stenn
If there was a version number in the Vendor field I'd be lots happier. In the RH distros I've seen (and the config.guess output on those boxes) I have still only seen "pc" for the Vendor field. H -- > On Tue, 2004-01-13 at 13:43, Bruno Haible wrote: > > Harlan Stenn wrote: > > > > > If the relea

Re: 1.8 and mkdir_p

2004-01-13 Thread Harlan Stenn
I think you are missing my point. The information I am talking about is used for *runtime* decisions - very likely in a script that is in a shared directory used by many different architectures. While it may be one possible implementation to run a configure script at startup time, it quickly beco

Re: config.guess and freedom (was: 1.8 and mkdir_p)

2004-01-13 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On Tue, 2004-01-13 at 13:43, Bruno Haible wrote: > Harlan Stenn wrote: > > > If the releases are all that similar, why not use: > > > > i686-GnuLinux-* > > > > as your test, and provide the "popular" distributions in the 3rd field? > > This is a little more reasonable, How would that be basical

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make distcheck problem

2004-01-13 Thread Lars Hecking
I have the following in a Makefile.am: if BUILD_SRC_BEOS_SUBDIR d_beos = beos endif SUBDIRS = $(d_beos) where BUILD_SRC_BEOS_SUBDIR is from an AM_CONDITIONAL in configure.in. BUILD_SRC_BEOS_SUBDIR is not defined because I'm not building on BeOS. The directory structure is top level top le

Re: config.guess and freedom (was: 1.8 and mkdir_p)

2004-01-13 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004, Bob Proulx wrote: > > > If the releases are all that similar, why not use: > > > > i686-GnuLinux-* > > > > as your test, and provide the "popular" distributions in the 3rd field? > > > > The "magic" command has a large database of selections on it; using this > > sort of mecha

Re: utility programs used during build

2004-01-13 Thread Tom Tromey
> "Warren" == Warren Turkal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Warren> Is there any analysis on what it would take to create utility Warren> programs that are only used during build in a crosscompiled Warren> environment in automake? Warren> I and working on the libX11 for Freedesktop.org and it bui

Re: GNU Automake 1.8.2 released

2004-01-13 Thread Alexandre Duret-Lutz
On Tue, Jan 13, 2004 at 02:59:23PM +, Lars Hecking wrote: > Alexandre Duret-Lutz writes: > > I'm embarassed to announce the release of Automake 1.8.2. > > And rightly so ;-) > > It fails two tests here on Solaris 9 - acloca14.test and conflnk3.test. Thanks for the report. These look like ha

Re: config.guess and freedom (was: 1.8 and mkdir_p)

2004-01-13 Thread Bob Proulx
Harlan Stenn wrote: > The good news and bad news is that your position is a POLICY decision. > > I am talking about a MECHANISM tool. Agreed. But it is not a mechanism of automake. Nor should the autotools support it since it embodies a diametrically opposed philosophy from the one the autotool

Re: config.guess and freedom (was: 1.8 and mkdir_p)

2004-01-13 Thread Bruno Haible
Harlan Stenn wrote: > If the releases are all that similar, why not use: > > i686-GnuLinux-* > > as your test, and provide the "popular" distributions in the 3rd field? This is a little more reasonable, since it allows to check for Linux with a single test. But the fundamental problem remains: y

Re: GNU Automake 1.8.2 released

2004-01-13 Thread Lars Hecking
Alexandre Duret-Lutz writes: > I'm embarassed to announce the release of Automake 1.8.2. And rightly so ;-) It fails two tests here on Solaris 9 - acloca14.test and conflnk3.test. ...checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/local/gnu/bin/install -c checking whether build environment is s

AC_CONFIG_FILES and Makefile.am

2004-01-13 Thread Andrew Suffield
On one project, I have over 60 entries in AC_CONFIG_FILES that are derived from Makefile.ams. This is getting to be irritating to maintain. Is there any good reason why there isn't an AM_CONFIG_MAKEFILES macro that computes a list of makefiles by following SUBDIRS variables in the Makefile.ams, and

Re: 1.8 and mkdir_p

2004-01-13 Thread Bruno Haible
Harlan Stenn wrote: > > The differences between ALL of the various linux-gnu implementations are > > so slight that they are far more suited to feature tests than something > > like this. > > Are you really serious? ... > > - RC files? > - packaging mechanism? > - automount filesystem selection bas

Re: utility programs used during build

2004-01-13 Thread Gary V. Vaughan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Warren Turkal wrote: | Is there any analysis on what it would take to create utility programs that | are only used during build in a crosscompiled environment in automake? | | I and working on the libX11 for Freedesktop.org and it builds a file and | us

Re: config.guess and freedom (was: 1.8 and mkdir_p)

2004-01-13 Thread Harlan Stenn
> Harlan Stenn wrote (meaning "Linux distribution" when he writes "OS"): > > help tool maintainers make choices > > about how things that are hard to find out otherwise (like OS-based > > choices). > > ... > > everybody who wants to make OS-level decisions has to code their own tests > > to figure

Re: 1.8 and mkdir_p

2004-01-13 Thread Harlan Stenn
> > [1] There are people who think a config.guess output that says: > > > > i686-pc-linux-gnu > > > > is "normal", while some of us feel that is a particularly useless value a= > nd > > would prefer to see something like: > > > > i686-pc-redhat7.3 > > > > instead, just like the original documenta

Re: Help Requests

2004-01-13 Thread J. Scott Amort
On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 14:32, dc wrote: > AFAIK There's a third possibility : you could setup a dist-hook target > in Makefile.am which allows you to specify completely your dist rule (I > had the same problem than yours and used this method). Unfortunately, it > also means that you might have to up