Re: AM_MAINTAINER_MODE

2013-02-07 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 07/02/2013 19:47, Stefano Lattarini wrote: > So you want to allow users to disable maintainer-mode rules in every > package? Yes. Where users here is "distribution packagers". > Better risk an extra rebuild than to miss a required one IMVHO. Or > understand why timestamps get mangled, and fix

Re: AM_MAINTAINER_MODE

2013-02-07 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Thu, 7 Feb 2013, Stefano Lattarini wrote: The reason is that while it makes total sense for developers and users alike, it's a pain for package maintainers, as sometimes timestamps end up mangled by patches, and we get unexpected maintainer-mode rebuilds... Better risk an extra rebuild tha

Re: AM_MAINTAINER_MODE

2013-02-07 Thread Stefano Lattarini
On 02/07/2013 06:17 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > On 07/02/2013 16:18, Stefano Lattarini wrote: >> (Side note: using AM_MAINTAINER_MODE these days is generally a bad idea >> IMHO; we should find a way to deprecate its usage in documentation, and >> eventually start warning at runtime if it is use

AM_MAINTAINER_MODE

2013-02-07 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 07/02/2013 16:18, Stefano Lattarini wrote: > (Side note: using AM_MAINTAINER_MODE these days is generally a bad idea > IMHO; we should find a way to deprecate its usage in documentation, and > eventually start warning at runtime if it is used -- and don't worry, > with *no* plans for a later rem

on naming test files for parallel test harness and not removing extensions

2013-02-07 Thread Marco Maggi
Ciao, this is somewhat a silly request... :-) I am a new user of the parallel test harness; I have a project with a set of tests that I want to run under different implementations of the same language; I put all the tests in a library and then load the library from test programs, one progr

Re: serial-tests option and backwards compatibility

2013-02-07 Thread Peter Johansson
On 2/7/13 7:58 PM, Stefano Lattarini wrote: On 02/05/2013 12:22 AM, Peter Johansson wrote: On 02/04/2013 11:31 PM, Stefano Lattarini wrote: When I did this, I should really have published a 1.11.x release offering this same option as well; that would have removed all confusion. Sigh, such a l

Re: Inconsistencies in boolean parameters

2013-02-07 Thread Stefano Lattarini
On 02/07/2013 03:06 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > While working on my guide, I've noticed that there is an inconsistency > with the way boolean parameters are passed. > > AM_MAINTAINER_MODE expects [enable] to be on-by-default. > (Side note: using AM_MAINTAINER_MODE these days is generally a bad

Inconsistencies in boolean parameters

2013-02-07 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
While working on my guide, I've noticed that there is an inconsistency with the way boolean parameters are passed. AM_MAINTAINER_MODE expects [enable] to be on-by-default. AM_SILENT_RULES expects [yes] to be on-by-default. Maybe it's something to keep in mind for future cleanups to accept both fo

Re: serial-tests option and backwards compatibility

2013-02-07 Thread Stefano Lattarini
On 02/05/2013 12:22 AM, Peter Johansson wrote: > On 02/04/2013 11:31 PM, Stefano Lattarini wrote: >> On 02/04/2013 01:16 AM, Luke Mewburn wrote: > [CUT] >>> Especially when the time between previous major releases was 2.5 years. >>> >>> Examining the Changelog and release dates: >>> [Aside: note th

Re: [FYI] {branch-1.13.2} NEWS: we no longer plan to drop $(INCLUDES) support in next major version

2013-02-07 Thread Stefano Lattarini
Hi Diego. On 02/07/2013 01:09 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > On 03/02/2013 20:28, Stefano Lattarini wrote: >> >> And note that support for INCLUDES has not been re-introduced in the >> master branch yet, at the moment of writing; but we plan to definitely >> do so before the next major release. >