Re: excessive bounces

2004-05-29 Thread Ben Pfaff
I recommend reading the autoconf and automake lists via the NNTP server at gmane.org, as the gmane.comp.sysutil.auto{conf,make}.* groups. They filter spam for you and you don't have to screw around with email subscriptions. -- "Implementation details are beyond the scope of the Java virtual mach

Re: excessive bounces

2004-05-28 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On Thu, 2004-05-27 at 18:58, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > On Thu, 27 May 2004, Lars Hecking wrote: > > o Ruthless use of DNS blacklists before mails reach anti-spam. Most of > > spam on GNU lists originates from "known bad boys" - Korea, China, > > dialup/dyn-ip hosts, Comcast, *bell etc. Recommen

Re: excessive bounces

2004-05-28 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Thu, 27 May 2004, Lars Hecking wrote: o gnu.org has a prohibitively high volume of email, and SA/Bayes require massive resources. Therefore, the volume of mail going through SA or any other tool must be limited. Bogofilter does a fine job of Bayesian filtering and is 50-100X faster than Spa

Re: excessive bounces

2004-05-27 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Thu, May 27, 2004 at 10:12:19AM +0100, Lars Hecking wrote: > > I believe that all of the SourceForge lists are also open. They used > > to support blocking non-subscribers but that became a nightmare for > > maintainers so the capability was removed. > > SourceForge uses SpamAssassin. Jus

Re: excessive bounces

2004-05-27 Thread Earnie Boyd
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Wed, 26 May 2004, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Face it, this is not 1994 anymore, the internet has lost its innocence, and badly maintained open lists like the auto*tools lists on gnu.org are a relict of the past. Unfortunately, SPAMmers quickly learn how to break through automa

Re: excessive bounces

2004-05-27 Thread Lars Hecking
> Unfortunately, SPAMmers quickly learn how to break through automated > defenses so that they can simply subscribe to lists. One way or > another, list servers are simply overwelmed. There seems to be no > reasonable solution. The problem here is not that spammers subscribe to lists; these

Re: excessive bounces

2004-05-26 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 26 May 2004, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Face it, this is not 1994 anymore, the internet has lost its innocence, and badly maintained open lists like the auto*tools lists on gnu.org are a relict of the past. Unfortunately, SPAMmers quickly learn how to break through automated defenses so that th

Re: excessive bounces

2004-05-26 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On Wed, 2004-05-26 at 07:43, Bob Proulx wrote: > Jay West wrote: > > You should have sent this to the list owner/admin, not the list. > > Lars Hecking wrote: > > Most likely, the same thing happens to OP that happens to me: the lists > > run at gnu.org are crawling with spam, and a good number

Re: excessive bounces

2004-05-26 Thread Earnie Boyd
Ralf Corsepius wrote: On Wed, 2004-05-26 at 07:43, Bob Proulx wrote: Jay West wrote: You should have sent this to the list owner/admin, not the list. Lars Hecking wrote: Most likely, the same thing happens to OP that happens to me: the lists run at gnu.org are crawling with s

Re: excessive bounces

2004-05-25 Thread Bob Proulx
Jay West wrote: > You should have sent this to the list owner/admin, not the list. Yes. But the list owner for the automake list is gnulists-ownrr at gnu.org, which is to say, effectively nobody. The list is really running entirely on inertia. For example there are over a hundred messages in th

Re: excessive bounces

2004-05-25 Thread Lars Hecking
> More succinctly put, the list server is having trouble reliably reaching > your machine. Most likely this isn't the list servers problem, it's yours > due to either sporadic connectivity on your part, or somewhere between the > list server and you, or sporadic DNS service on your part. If you ha

Re: excessive bounces

2004-05-24 Thread Jay West
ct me off-list and I'll try to help. Regards, Jay West - Original Message - From: "Alien9" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 12:10 PM Subject: excessive bounces > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: S

excessive bounces

2004-05-24 Thread Alien999999999
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Every 10 days I get a message from the automake-mailing list that I have to re-enable my subscription, because of excessive bounces. This is very frustrating, I'm running linux, don't have any viruses, and i don't spam people, i har