Re: Release next major version - how bad could it be?

2012-10-20 Thread Adrian C.
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012, Bill Sun wrote: > Are you going to update the 'vicious' lib so that it can cope with the > next major release? It is compatible with awesome 4, and with lua 5.2. -- Adrian C. (anrxc) | anrxc..sysphere.org | PGP ID: D20A0618 PGP FP: 02A5 628A D8EE 2A93 996E 929F D5CB 31B7

Re: Release next major version - how bad could it be?

2012-10-20 Thread Andreas Radke
Am Thu, 18 Oct 2012 08:09:03 +0800 schrieb Oon-Ee Ng : > On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 7:50 AM, Adrian C. wrote: > > On Sat, 13 Oct 2012, Adrian C. wrote: > > > >> I hope there will be enough of us so we can keep patching it for > >> future xcb maybe even lua 5.2. > > > > To clarify, those devils from

Re: Release next major version - how bad could it be?

2012-10-19 Thread Bill Sun
Are you going to update the 'vicious' lib so that it can cope with the next major release? Regards. -- To unsubscribe, send mail to awesome-unsubscr...@naquadah.org.

Re: Release next major version - how bad could it be?

2012-10-19 Thread Benoît Zugmeyer
Don't worry about that, there will be a lua51 package, and the awesome package from community will be updated. Maintainers of AUR packages will have to do their job quickly but the main package should be fine. http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2012-September/023569.html -- Ben

Re: Release next major version - how bad could it be?

2012-10-19 Thread Uli Schlachter
Hi, On 19.10.2012 12:25, Adam Jimerson wrote: > On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 1:50 AM, Adrian C. wrote: >>> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012, Adrian C. wrote: >>> I hope there will be enough of us so we can keep patching it for future xcb may

Re: Release next major version - how bad could it be?

2012-10-19 Thread Adam Jimerson
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: > On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 1:50 AM, Adrian C. wrote: > > On Sat, 13 Oct 2012, Adrian C. wrote: > > > >> I hope there will be enough of us so we can keep patching it for > >> future xcb maybe even lua 5.2. > > > > To clarify, those devils

Re: Release next major version - how bad could it be?

2012-10-18 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 1:50 AM, Adrian C. wrote: > On Sat, 13 Oct 2012, Adrian C. wrote: > >> I hope there will be enough of us so we can keep patching it for >> future xcb maybe even lua 5.2. > > To clarify, those devils from Arch Linux will probably introduce it > sooner than anyone. We must b

Re: Release next major version - how bad could it be?

2012-10-17 Thread Oon-Ee Ng
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 7:50 AM, Adrian C. wrote: > On Sat, 13 Oct 2012, Adrian C. wrote: > >> I hope there will be enough of us so we can keep patching it for >> future xcb maybe even lua 5.2. > > To clarify, those devils from Arch Linux will probably introduce it > sooner than anyone. > Change d

Re: Release next major version - how bad could it be?

2012-10-17 Thread Adrian C.
On Sat, 13 Oct 2012, Adrian C. wrote: > I hope there will be enough of us so we can keep patching it for > future xcb maybe even lua 5.2. To clarify, those devils from Arch Linux will probably introduce it sooner than anyone. -- Adrian C. (anrxc) | anrxc..sysphere.org | PGP ID: D20A0618 PGP

Fwd: Re: Release next major version - how bad could it be?

2012-10-15 Thread Ignas Anikevicius
Forgot to cc the list. - Forwarded message from Ignas Anikevicius - > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 18:46:00 +0100 > From: Ignas Anikevicius > To: Alexander Yakushev > Subject: Re: Release next major version - how bad could it be? > > On 14/10/12 05:12:01 +0300, Alexan

Re: Release next major version - how bad could it be?

2012-10-14 Thread Alexander Yakushev
On 10/14/2012 04:52 PM, Uli Schlachter wrote: So since titlebars are so important, I played around a little. See the attached screenshot. What you are looking at is git/master plus: 23 files changed, 801 insertions(+), 349 deletions(-) Me being lazy, I just used the wibox-widget as a (fake) tit

Re: Release next major version - how bad could it be?

2012-10-13 Thread Uli Schlachter
On 12.10.2012 17:47, Julien Danjou wrote: > On Fri, Oct 12 2012, Uli Schlachter wrote: > >> This is where it all started: >> >> commit 371ee3e8cc0d7d315e822d4c6f131b068b39f380 >> Author: Julien Danjou >> Date: Thu Sep 17 15:05:53 2009 +0200 >> >> titlebar: remove >> >> Signed-off-by: Ju

Re: Release next major version - how bad could it be?

2012-10-13 Thread Jérôme M. Berger
Alexander Yakushev wrote: > On 10/13/2012 11:38 AM, "Jérôme M. Berger" wrote: >> Wrong. I want titlebars and I use awesome (v3.4.13). I'd be pretty >> unhappy if the next stable release didn't have them. >> >> Updating my config files does not bother me. Loosing functionality >> does. > OK

Re: Release next major version - how bad could it be?

2012-10-13 Thread Adrian C.
Why are users in such a hurry to start using awesome v4? To break the API first time after 3 years (even today people are still spreading bullshit how awesome changes every month). You guys will have one active developer on your favorite window manager? Indeed I will keep using v3.4 for a bit,

RE: Release next major version - how bad could it be?

2012-10-13 Thread space
> > Regards, > > > David > > > -Original Message- > From: "Jérôme M. Berger" [mailto:jeber...@free.fr] > Sent: Saturday, 13 October 2012 7:38 PM > To: awesome@naquadah.org > Subject: Re: Release next major version - how bad could it be? >

RE: Release next major version - how bad could it be?

2012-10-13 Thread David Sorkovsky
Same here - Definitely need title bars! Regards, David -Original Message- From: "Jérôme M. Berger" [mailto:jeber...@free.fr] Sent: Saturday, 13 October 2012 7:38 PM To: awesome@naquadah.org Subject: Re: Release next major version - how bad could it be? Alexande

Re: Release next major version - how bad could it be?

2012-10-13 Thread Julien Danjou
On Fri, Oct 12 2012, Alexander Yakushev wrote: > So why couldn't this titlebar thing be postponed as well, or even provided > as a plugin at some point? The problem, I think, is that current code does not allow to build titlebar at all, not even as a plugin. Basic brick should be there so anybody

Re: Release next major version - how bad could it be?

2012-10-13 Thread Alexander Yakushev
On 10/13/2012 11:38 AM, "Jérôme M. Berger" wrote: Wrong. I want titlebars and I use awesome (v3.4.13). I'd be pretty unhappy if the next stable release didn't have them. Updating my config files does not bother me. Loosing functionality does. OK then, does it matter for you if yo

Re: Release next major version - how bad could it be?

2012-10-13 Thread Jérôme M. Berger
Alexander Yakushev wrote: > What is so important with those titlebars? I mean everyone (wild guess) > who wanted titlebars in their WM had already moved to Openbox or > something; or at least they use their own half-baked titlebars. Wrong. I want titlebars and I use awesome (v3.4.13). I'd

Re: Release next major version - how bad could it be?

2012-10-12 Thread Oon-Ee Ng
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 2:39 AM, Alexander Yakushev wrote: > > Falling back on incorrect config is nice, but there still have to be some > informative message why this happened (most users don't read mailing lists > to know that configuration format has changed). As a (noobie) user who DOES read

Re: Release next major version - how bad could it be?

2012-10-12 Thread Alexander Yakushev
Urgh. We never did something like that before and I surely hope that most users use the awesome version from their distro. So something that runs during "make install" wouldn't help them. Also, awesome falls back to the default config when loading the config produces errors, so this shouldn't be

Re: Release next major version - how bad could it be?

2012-10-12 Thread Julien Danjou
On Fri, Oct 12 2012, Uli Schlachter wrote: > This is where it all started: > > commit 371ee3e8cc0d7d315e822d4c6f131b068b39f380 > Author: Julien Danjou > Date: Thu Sep 17 15:05:53 2009 +0200 > > titlebar: remove > > Signed-off-by: Julien Danjou So this is how you want to handle this? N

Re: Release next major version - how bad could it be?

2012-10-12 Thread Uli Schlachter
Evening, On 12.10.2012 16:30, Alexander Yakushev wrote: > This question have already been raised a few times, both on the list and > in the bugtracker. I understand that the problem lies in incompatibility > of current git/master version with old configuration files. No, it doesn't. We never ma