RE: [Axiom-developer] letting my mud settle

2005-11-08 Thread Bill Page
On November 8, 2005 4:55 PM C Y wrote: > > Personally, I would be happier with a system that can be > bootstrapped. I started writing a long explanation about bootstrapping and all that, but thanks to the magic of Wikipedia I don't have to bother, I can just point: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki

RE: [Axiom-developer] letting my mud settle

2005-11-08 Thread C Y
--- Bill Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am not aware of any of Tim's past sins -- only his present > ones. ;) Building Axiom from sources only, which was apparently > a requirement imposed by restrictive licensing conditions which > apparently prevented any of the previously commercial binary

RE: [Axiom-developer] RE: [fspace.spad] dvi file display

2005-11-08 Thread Bill Page
On November 8, 2005 12:16 PM Michel Lavaud > ... > I suspect you are viewing with Dviwin, a dvi file produced by > TeX4ht ? TeX4ht produces an intermediate dvi file (because it > uses TeX to resolve user-defined or package-defined TeX commands), > but this dvi file is not to be viewed with a dvi

Re: [Axiom-developer] MuPad under trouble

2005-11-08 Thread Jay Belanger
Bertfried Fauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > first, is that reliable information? I think so. The thread that CY linked to had a link to the MuPAD founder's website, http://fuchssteiner.info/, which discusses it, and the thread also contains comments from Christopher Creutzig, a

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: [fspace.spad] dvi file display

2005-11-08 Thread michel . lavaud
On 7 Nov 2005 at 9:22, Bill Page wrote: > Willaim, > > Thanks for noticing this. I get the a similar error when I try > to open the dvi file using Yap from MikTeX. But this is very > strange because I can open other dvi files and I can even open > this file in pdf format even though the pdf format

RE: [Axiom-developer] letting my mud settle

2005-11-08 Thread Bill Page
On November 7, 2005 10:20 PM Tim Daly wrote: >... > the task at that time was to rewrite the system into pamphlet > files. had i proposed such a massive, pervasive rewrite this > mailing list would have been aflame with opinion. and the > consensus would certainly have been to NOT do a pamphlet > r

Re: [Axiom-developer] MuPad under trouble

2005-11-08 Thread Bertfried Fauser
Hi, first, is that reliable information? If so it would be a desater to the fruiltful and active work on the tremendouly good combinat package of MuPad. However, some of those developers might have MuPad source, I have to be inquisitive. Anyhow, it would have officially to go open source.

Re: [Axiom-developer] MuPad under trouble

2005-11-08 Thread C Y
--- root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > God I hate to see such research die. Amen. > I hope they have a "deadman provision" to open source the work > if MuPAD/SciFace dies. Perhaps we could merge the efforts and > benefit in the long run. If they do open the code someone should > let me know. I

[Axiom-developer] MuPad under trouble

2005-11-08 Thread root
God I hate to see such research die. I hope they have a "deadman provision" to open source the work if MuPAD/SciFace dies. Perhaps we could merge the efforts and benefit in the long run. If they do open the code someone should let me know. I know that in the U.S. there is no NSF funding available

[Axiom-developer] [mirrors]

2005-11-08 Thread Bill Page
Changes http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/Mirrors/diff -- ??changed: - Buy some http://www.cafepress.com/supportaxiom";>Axiom Gear to help support Axiom http://www.cafepress.com/supportaxiom.25197477";> http://www.cafepress.com/supportaxiom.25197484"; > http://www.cafepres

[Axiom-developer] MathAction Contents

2005-11-08 Thread Martin Rubey
Dear all, I have done some cosmetics to MathAction, primarily to address the complaint that it's FrontPage was too loaded. Unfortunately, my time is very limited and even with regard to Axiom, I think it is better spent in writing packages and fixing bugs. However, I feel that MathAction is very

Re: [Axiom-developer] letting my mud settle

2005-11-08 Thread C Y
--- Jay Belanger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > *, > > That's wild enough to include me. I really don't have anything to > contribute, but I thought I should delurk sometime. Hey Jay! :-). Glad to see you on the list. > It's probably largely due to hindsight and seeing how things turned

[Axiom-developer] [Programming Axiom]

2005-11-08 Thread kratt6
Changes http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/ProgrammingAxiom/diff -- ??changed: -There has been quite a lot of There has been quite a lot of -- forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Axiom-de

[Axiom-developer] [Programming Axiom]

2005-11-08 Thread kratt6
Changes http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/ProgrammingAxiom/diff -- ??changed: -is available online see "Axiom Documentation":AxiomDocumentationAndCommunity. is available online see "Axiom Documentation":AxiomDocumentation. --removed: -Debugging in Axiom - - Axiom contains some powe

[Axiom-developer] [AxiomDocumentationAndCommunity] (deleted)

2005-11-08 Thread kratt6
Changes http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/AxiomDocumentationAndCommunity/diff -- This page was deleted. -- forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-developer@

[Axiom-developer] [debugging Axiom]

2005-11-08 Thread kratt6
Changes http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/DebuggingAxiom/diff -- ??changed: -Fortunately, Axiom is rather easy to debug. Most of the source is very transparent, so once you have localized the bug there are mostly -"design issues":DesignIssues to overcome. However, to find out which

[Axiom-developer] [HyperDocTracing] (new)

2005-11-08 Thread kratt6
Changes http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/HyperDocTracing/diff -- The Trace Facility Axiom contains some powerful commands to help with testing and debugging library modules written in Spad and also the Axiom system itself. The most important of these commands is ')trace'. This co

Re: [Axiom-developer] Terms of Surrender (was: BAD tim)

2005-11-08 Thread C Y
--- William Sit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > C Y wrote: > > I'm just saying that in an open source project discussion without > > code ultimately goes nowhere. I don't think that's a danger here, > > but it has been known to effectively kill projects in the past. > > Is that (projects getting

[Axiom-developer] [ExampleSolution] (deleted)

2005-11-08 Thread kratt6
Changes http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/ExampleSolution/diff -- This page was deleted. -- forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-developer@nongnu.org http:

[Axiom-developer] [Axiom Documentation]

2005-11-08 Thread kratt6
Changes http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/AxiomDocumentation/diff -- ??changed: -The [Axiom Book] The Axiom Book -- forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-d

[Axiom-developer] [Axiom Documentation]

2005-11-08 Thread kratt6
Changes http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/AxiomDocumentation/diff -- ??changed: -"online":/Mirrors?go=/public/book2.pdf&it=Axiom+Book "online":Mirrors?go=/public/book2.pdf&it=Axiom+Book ??changed: -A project to publish a printed version the [Axiom Book] with A project to publish a "

[Axiom-developer] [FAQ] (deleted)

2005-11-08 Thread kratt6
Changes http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/FAQ/diff -- This page was deleted. -- forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-developer@nongnu.org http://lists.nong

[Axiom-developer] [AxiomProblems]

2005-11-08 Thread kratt6
Changes http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/AxiomProblems/diff -- --removed: -- [efficiency problem] - ??changed: - - [Computing with Vectors] - Rules for [simplifying Expressions] - [Graphics on MathAction] -- forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/[EMAIL P

[Axiom-developer] [Graphics on MathAction] (new)

2005-11-08 Thread kratt6
Changes http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/GraphicsOnMathAction/diff -- Graphics? Try this \begin{axiom} draw(5*besselJ(0,sqrt(x**2+y**2)), x=-20..20, y=-20..20) \end{axiom} *Not clear why latex is not rendered properly ... * The reason why this did not originally render properl

[Axiom-developer] [simplifying Expressions] (new)

2005-11-08 Thread kratt6
Changes http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/SimplifyingExpressions/diff -- Simplification of Expressions Suppose we compute \begin{axiom} integrate(exp(-x**2/2)/sqrt(2*%pi),x=%minusInfinity..%plusInfinity) \end{axiom} *And now I wonder why common factors are not cancelled and why

[Axiom-developer] [RealClosure]

2005-11-08 Thread kratt6
Changes http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/RealClosure/diff -- ++added: "Here":EfficiencyProblem is an example of it's usage. -- forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Axiom-developer mailing

[Axiom-developer] FW: [FrontPage] MuPad under trouble

2005-11-08 Thread Bill Page
Axiom Developers, This information was forwarded to the Axiom Portal by an anonymous Axiom user. At http://fuchssteiner.info there is some sad and shocking news about MuPad. Of the three, Mathematica, Maple and MuPad, MuPad is the closest in spirit to Axiom both in mathematical approach and in a

[Axiom-developer] [Computing with Vectors] (new)

2005-11-08 Thread kratt6
Changes http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/ComputingWithVectors/diff -- How to multiply two vectors?? Multiplication element by element: *Vanuxem Grégory replies:* \begin{axiom} a:= vector [1,2,3,5,6] map(*,a,a) \end{axiom} otherwise use Matrix: \begin{axiom} a:= matrix [[1,2,3,

[Axiom-developer] code walker and crystal

2005-11-08 Thread root
Kai, what i'm doing is pure dogwork. there are interesting parts to be done which i have "in plan" and you can clearly get there first. they will get done but not real soon. so i'll give you some thoughts. besides the summer work that you're doing i think the main thing you could help with is mak

[Axiom-developer] [#93 Confusing amount of information on Axiom (beginner's issue)] links updated after rename

2005-11-08 Thread kratt6
Changes http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/93ConfusingAmountOfInformationOnAxiomBeginnersIssue/diff -- ??changed: -If you are wondering what http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/Plone is about, I recently added some explanation at [the Axiom Community]. If you are wondering what htt

[Axiom-developer] [AxiomCommunity] (renamed)

2005-11-08 Thread kratt6
Changes http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/AxiomCommunity/diff -- This page was renamed from the Axiom Community to AxiomCommunity. -- forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Axiom-developer mai

[Axiom-developer] [FrontPage]

2005-11-08 Thread kratt6
Changes http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/FrontPage/diff -- ??changed: -Join the "Axiom Community":theAxiomCommunity and keep up to date with "our newsfeed":MathActionRSS Join the [Axiom Community] and keep up to date with "our newsfeed":MathActionRSS -- forwarded from http://page.

[Axiom-developer] [TheAxiomCommunity] (deleted)

2005-11-08 Thread kratt6
Changes http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/TheAxiomCommunity/diff -- This page was deleted. -- forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-developer@nongnu.org htt

[Axiom-developer] [FrontPage]

2005-11-08 Thread kratt6
Changes http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/FrontPage/diff -- ??changed: -Welcome to Axiom! Welcome to "Axiom":AboutAxiom! ??changed: - systems. Currently you can use both Axiom and Reduce on this web site systems. Currently you can use both "Axiom":AboutAxiom and "Reduce":ReduceW

[Axiom-developer] Future of Axiom design

2005-11-08 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
Hello, I don't want to take part in that discussion about whether BOOT should remain or not. Good documentation is one thing, but there should be some goal of where we want to get Axiom finally. Converting Boot code to Lisp is trivial - just run the compiler. But the compiler's output is mo

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: integration server

2005-11-08 Thread Martin Rubey
"Bill Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But integrating this kind of lookup into Axiom itself is quite another. I am > not sure it would be a good idea unless done in the context of a major > re-evaluation of the way Axiom does integration. I recently had to understand the pattern matcher in Ax

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: integration server

2005-11-08 Thread Martin Rubey
I forgot an important paragraph: the implementation of the Risch algorithm seems to be quite up to date however. Furthermore, it appears that the SumIt library by Manuel will be released under a free license, and it should be possible to link it to Axiom. This would probably be state of the art. -

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: [fspace.spad] dvi file display

2005-11-08 Thread Martin Rubey
> Does the 'dvi' link at > > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/axiom--test--1/src/algebra/FspaceSpad Don't know why, but it works for me now, too. Although I doubt it had anything to do with the dvi file itself... Martin ___ Axiom-developer mailing l

Re: [Axiom-developer] Good Tim

2005-11-08 Thread Kai Kaminski
"Bill Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On November 7, 2005 10:10 AM Kai Kaminski wrote: > >> >> I don't feel like participating in the language arguments going >> on at the moment. Still I would like to voice my support for Tim's >> position in this matter. > > Thank you for participating anyw

[Axiom-developer] [mirrors]

2005-11-08 Thread unknown
Changes http://www.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/Mirrors/diff -- integrate(1/(a+z^3), z=0..1,"noPole") -- forwarded from http://www.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-developer@nongnu.org h