[Axiom-developer] [HyperDoc] minor typo

2005-12-14 Thread fshahriar
Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/HyperDoc/diff -- ??changed: -Once you instal or build the system you can test it by typing:: Once you install or build the system you can test it by typing:: -- forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED] _

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: noweb "bug" (was: article "standard" header/footer)

2005-12-14 Thread root
still fails at the same spot in the same way. > OK, please try again with > > export CVSROOT=:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/sources/gcl > cd gcl-2.6.8pre/o && cvs update plttest.c && make plt.o \ > && cd ../unixport && make saved_gcl > > Or try a fresh checkout if you wish. > > Please kee

[Axiom-developer] Re: MAC OSX 10.4 and GCL

2005-12-14 Thread root
camm, i have a bunch of patches for the MACOSX version of axiom's C code. i'll post the diffs in a few... the gcl_2.6.8pre build worked on the mac. thanks. t ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-developer@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: noweb "bug" (was: article "standard" header/footer)

2005-12-14 Thread Camm Maguire
OK, please try again with export CVSROOT=:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/sources/gcl cd gcl-2.6.8pre/o && cvs update plttest.c && make plt.o \ && cd ../unixport && make saved_gcl Or try a fresh checkout if you wish. Please keep me posted. I'll explain what is going on if you are interested

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: noweb "bug" (was: article "standard" header/footer)

2005-12-14 Thread Camm Maguire
Greetings! First let me say I'm totally fine with shipping gcl sources with axiom as is. The below is just an attempt to explore the other possibility in more detail. root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > you ARE aware that gcl includes things like bfd, binutils, gmp, etc. > axiom isn't the only

[Axiom-developer] Re: noweb "bug" (was: article "standard" header/footer)

2005-12-14 Thread root
Camm, further investingation shows that _feof is defined in /usr/lib/libc.dylib(feof.So) simplly definiing a file foo.lisp containing (defun foo (x y) (+ x y)) and then doing: (compile-file "foo.lisp") (load "foo.lisp") (foo 2 3) works so the breakage is more subtle. i'm continuing to inv

[Axiom-developer] Re: noweb "bug" (was: article "standard" header/footer)

2005-12-14 Thread root
Camm, on the mac: loading /home/daly/macosx46/obj/MACOSX/interp/util.o Error: Undefined symbol "_feof" Fast links are on: do (si::use-fast-links nil) for debugging Error signalled by LOAD. Broken at LOAD. Type :H for Help. >>make[3]: *** [/home/daly/macosx46/obj/MACOSX/bin/interpsys] Error 255

RE: [Axiom-developer] this is open source

2005-12-14 Thread Page, Bill
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:43 PM Bob McElrath wrote: > ... > Remember that effort is an exponentially falling distribution. > Just a guess, but each line below will at least halve the number > of people that make it to that step. Open source occurs on the > tail. I disagree. Or at least,

RE: [Axiom-developer] this is open source

2005-12-14 Thread Page, Bill
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005 5:42 PM C Y wrote: > > WOW. I did not know things had progressed that far. >Exciting times. > > --- root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.dridus.com/~nyef/messagebox-goodness.png > > > > sbcl on windows popping up a native windows messagebox > > Li

Re: [Axiom-developer] this is open source

2005-12-14 Thread C Y
WOW. I did not know things had progressed that far. Exciting times. Cheers, CY --- root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.dridus.com/~nyef/messagebox-goodness.png > > sbcl on windows popping up a native windows messagebox > > t > __ Do

Re: [Axiom-developer] this is open source

2005-12-14 Thread root
http://www.dridus.com/~nyef/messagebox-goodness.png sbcl on windows popping up a native windows messagebox t ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-developer@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer

Re: [Axiom-developer] this is open source

2005-12-14 Thread C Y
--- root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > axiom is free software. design it, hack it, polish it, test it, > document it, and send patches (or arch changesets). you're > allowed to do anything you want and have no reason to depend > on me for anything (except the final merge step into axiom-- > main

Re: [Axiom-developer] this is open source

2005-12-14 Thread Bob McElrath
root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > when people have suggested new platforms like windows or sbcl, > new guis, new algebra, or whatever a new branch is created. i > expect that (a) people will commit to those branches and (b) > people will develop their idea to the level that it "just works" > and (c)

[Axiom-developer] [AxiomDownload] corrected typo - thanks for your comment

2005-12-14 Thread Bill Page
Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AxiomDownload/diff -- ??changed: - (binary)":Mirrors?go=http://axiom.axiom-developer.org/axiom-website/DOWNLOADS/axiom-Sept2005-FC4-bin.tgz&it=Fedora+Core+3+binary (binary)":Mirrors?go=http://axiom.axiom-developer.org/axiom-website/DOWNLOADS/axiom-Sep

[Axiom-developer] Re: MAC OSX 10.4 and GCL

2005-12-14 Thread root
attached are the patches. essentially i had to forcefully reorder the include files because the mac insists on including "usr/include/sys" before "usr/include" and i can't seem to override it. plus one of the graphics routines was just plain wrong so i rewrote it. it's been a while since i've ha

[Axiom-developer] RE: noweb "bug" (was: article "standard" header/footer)

2005-12-14 Thread Page, Bill
Camm, On Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:13 PM you wrote: >... > Bill Page wrote: > > Or does the Debian build actually rebuild noweb? > > I haven't touched axiom's use of noweb, apart from not shipping > special noweb binaries. You can look at a sample build log here: > > http://buildd.debian

[Axiom-developer] RE: noweb "bug" (was: article "standard" header/footer)

2005-12-14 Thread Page, Bill
Ralf, On Wednesday, December 14, 2005 7:56 AM you wrote: > > By the way, try the following in AXIOMROOT. > > find . -name '*.pamphlet' -exec grep "<<.*>>" {} \; > xxx.1 > grep -v ">>= *$" xxx.1 > xxx.2 > grep -v ">> *$" xxx.2 > xxx.3 > grep -v "@<<"xxx.3 > xxx.4 > wc xxx.4 >86 472 483

[Axiom-developer] Re: noweb "bug" (was: article "standard" header/footer)

2005-12-14 Thread root
oh, and as an aside, even if you build axiom on a "native gcl" you don't need the native gcl afterward. you can erase it and axiom still works (since axiom IS a gcl image). so why force the user to install software that isn't used? t ___ Axiom-deve

[Axiom-developer] Re: noweb "bug" (was: article "standard" header/footer)

2005-12-14 Thread root
(7) and readline isn't installed in gcl axiom has its own readline (clef) which can do "algebra command completion" and knows about axiom. clef is automatically started when axiom starts. readline interferes with clef. so if "native gcl" has readline we can't use it either. t __

[Axiom-developer] Re: noweb "bug" (was: article "standard" header/footer)

2005-12-14 Thread root
you ARE aware that gcl includes things like bfd, binutils, gmp, etc. axiom isn't the only package that includes upstream sources. the only way i know to ensure that your product works as advertised is to make sure that it works when you build it. and that requires certain versions. in a perfect wo

[Axiom-developer] Re: noweb "bug" (was: article "standard" header/footer)

2005-12-14 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
Hi, Yes, we should simply "tell people that axiom needs at least version x.y of noweb" and version 2.6.x of gcl. These are prerequisites. Download and install them first - then install Axiom. If you are using apt-get on Debian or yum on Fedora, etc. then these prerequisites are automatically ins

RE: [Axiom-developer] hyperlinked algebra

2005-12-14 Thread C Y
--- "Page, Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have solved the remaining problems with using hyperlinking > with GraphViz in LaTeX so that now the links in the diagram > link directly to the appropriate section of the target. WOW! > For example: > > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/book--main--

[Axiom-developer] [AxiomDownload] FC4 ?

2005-12-14 Thread unknown
Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AxiomDownload/diff -- Clicking on "Fedora Core 4 (binary)" takes me to a page that says You are about to download Fedora Core 3 binary ! What's going on? -- forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___

[Axiom-developer] RE: Axiom uses unmodified GCL on Debian?

2005-12-14 Thread Page, Bill
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005 11:15 AM Tim Daly (root) wrote: > Bill Page wrote: > > > > The Debian prerequisite for Axiom is the non-ansi version of > > gcl. If the non-ansi version is not installed on the system > > then 'apt-get install axiom' will also install it. Actually what I wrote is

[Axiom-developer] Re: navigating Axiom's library

2005-12-14 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
... hyperdoc ... I would want to replace it with aldordoc.sty + some better browser that extracts information about the .as sources and is able to navigate through the Algbra hierarchy. Well, that would be the same idea as hyperdoc, but not with hyperdoc but with an ordinary webbrowser. Yes. Wel

[Axiom-developer] Re: Axiom uses unmodified GCL on Debian?

2005-12-14 Thread root
> > also, how do we handle the fact that users can build gcl > > using the -ansi switch. that means that their local copy > > of gcl cannot be used by axiom (yet). > > > > The Debian prerequiste for Axiom is the non-ansi version of > gcl. If the non-ansi version is not installed on the system > t

[Axiom-developer] Re: navigating Axiom's library

2005-12-14 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
That is true for dvi/ps/pdf. HTML and friends should be hyperlinked anyway. Whether ALL documentation is in one big HTML file or whether there are several smaller pages is a minor detail for html. Well, I believe that it does make a difference for the HyperDoc replacement: When you "browse" an o

[Axiom-developer] this is open source

2005-12-14 Thread root
there are 22 developers listed with WRITE access to every project on arch.axiom-developer.org. write access is available for the asking. while i don't expect people to mangle the axiom--main branch virtually every one can create a branch, make changes, test them, and post patches. there are 13 pu

[Axiom-developer] RE: Axiom uses unmodified GCL on Debian?

2005-12-14 Thread Page, Bill
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005 10:05 AM Tim Daly (root) wrote: > -Original Message- > From: root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; axiom-developer@nongnu.org; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Axiom uses unmodified GCL on Debian? > > > > well,

[Axiom-developer] Re: MAC OSX 10.4 and GCL

2005-12-14 Thread Camm Maguire
Greetings! root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Camm, > > Can you point me at a GCL version that is known to build on OSX 10.4? > Can you tell me the configure options with that version? > > I've been unsuccessful in building a standalone version of GCL. > Good you asked, as I've just been work

RE: [Axiom-developer] AxiomUI

2005-12-14 Thread Page, Bill
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005 3:46 AM Arthur Ralfs wrote: > Bill Page wrote: > > > >Then you can view the source code online at: > > > >http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/axiom--GUI--1 > > > OK I got the source but when I went to the second wiki link it > redirected to http://wiki.axiom-developer.o

[Axiom-developer] Re: Axiom uses unmodified GCL on Debian?

2005-12-14 Thread root
> > well, the build is proceeding and appears to be progressing > > ok. of course i have no idea WHY it works since there are no > > comments in the patch file. i'll test the graphics and hyperdoc > > in the morning. > > Great. It would be nice if Camm had the time to write explicit > documentatio

[Axiom-developer] Re: noweb "bug" (was: article "standard" header/footer)

2005-12-14 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
Hello, root wrote: re: noweb bug i don't agree with Norman. *I* consider it a bug. especially so since Ralf fixed the same "feature" independently. noweb does the wrong thing with certain non-chunks. if the chunk isn't in the hashtable complain and continue. i diagnosed the bug,

[Axiom-developer] Re: noweb "bug" (was: article "standard" header/footer)

2005-12-14 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
By the way, try the following in AXIOMROOT. find . -name '*.pamphlet' -exec grep "<<.*>>" {} \; > xxx.1 grep -v ">>= *$" xxx.1 > xxx.2 grep -v ">> *$" xxx.2 > xxx.3 grep -v "@<<"xxx.3 > xxx.4 wc xxx.4 86 472 4836 xxx.4 Look at these 86 lines. I've only found Label: '<<' Name '>

RE: [Axiom-developer] hyperlinked algebra

2005-12-14 Thread Page, Bill
On Tuesday, December 13, 2005 12:27 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > > Bill Page wrote: > >> Doing the same thing with \n instead of \- would be a bit more > >> complicated. But I think for LaTeX-speakers \- is more natural > >> anyway. > > > > Hmmm ... maybe '\n ' would be better - more compatible wit

[Axiom-developer] Re: navigating Axiom's library

2005-12-14 Thread Martin Rubey
Ralf Hemmecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi Martin, sorry, but I am a bit behind... too much traffic... > Martin Rubey wrote: > > As far as I understand, you are proposing a system where several (literate) > > source files are compiled into one big dvi/ps/pdf/html/mathml ... file. > That is

Re: [Axiom-developer] Building axiom on FreeBSD

2005-12-14 Thread Gernot Hueber
Hello all, I have found some more information when generating bootsys, actually I have not yet experience with lisp. BTW the boothr.o file exists! Can anybody explain this error - and offer a solution ;-) Thanks Gernot hawkings# cat console GCL (GNU Common Lisp) 2.6.7 ANSINov 23 2005 09:0

Re: [Axiom-developer] Building axiom on FreeBSD

2005-12-14 Thread Gernot Hueber
I tried about the same than Uli (but using FreeBSD 5.4) What looks suspicious is: /.amd_mnt/johnson/vol/vol0/home/hueber/src/axiom--main--1--patch-46/obj/freebsd/bin/bootsys: not found Gernot On Mon, 2005-12-12 at 22:12 -0500, root wrote: > ah. then it failed to compile. which is odd because t

[Axiom-developer] [build Axiom]

2005-12-14 Thread kratt6
Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/BuildAxiom/diff -- ??changed: -See deteails instructions at ArchUsage See details instructions at ArchUsage -- forwarded from http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Axiom-developer mailing

[Axiom-developer] [build Axiom]

2005-12-14 Thread kratt6
Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/BuildAxiom/diff -- ??changed: -For those who want to get the lastest set of mistakes see AxiomDevelopment For those who want to get the latest set of mistakes see AxiomDevelopment --removed: - -From unknown Tue Dec 13 10:30:35 -0600 2005 -From: unknown -Dat

[Axiom-developer] [Aldor]

2005-12-14 Thread kratt6
Changes http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/Aldor/diff -- ??changed: -Over View Overview --removed: -From unknown Tue Dec 13 09:51:07 -0600 2005 -From: unknown -Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:51:07 -0600 -Subject: correction -Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - -Over View -> Overview -- forwarded from http

Re: [Axiom-developer] AxiomUI

2005-12-14 Thread Arthur Ralfs
Page, Bill wrote: If you haven't seen this already you can start here with the original proposal: http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AxiomUI Then you can view the source code online at: http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/axiom--GUI--1 The actual source archive can be retrieved via % tla get axiom

RE: [Axiom-developer] AxiomUI

2005-12-14 Thread Page, Bill
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:08 AM Arthur Ralfs wrote: > > I've been listening in for the last month or so. I see mention > of AxiomUI but when I search I haven't been able to find any code, > only descriptions of what it's supposed to do. Is there any code > available for inspection? I mi