[Axiom-developer] --patch-50

2006-09-03 Thread root
Sourceforge SVN trunk/axiom is up to date with the Gold version There are 390 changes. Apparently the automatic conversion from CVS to SVN is broken with respect to binary files. They have been fixed. In the trunk/axiom directory there is a directory called PATCH49-50 that contains a file calle

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: cross-compiling Axiom

2006-09-03 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, root wrote: | Not much that I can see. Yes, you could build a cross-compiled | image of Axiom and you could set the system so it does not try | to compile things but you couldn't use it for algebra development | without a lot of hand-manipulation (e.g. running the debugsys | i

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: cross-compiling Axiom

2006-09-03 Thread root
Bill, I was giving a tutorial on the difference between two different obscure techniques that could be used to get Axiom running on a new system. I'm not advocating either technique. > > Axiom was ported to the Zaurus handheld using cross-compilation. > > Camm does it in the Debian setup. > >

RE: [Axiom-developer] RE: cross-compiling Axiom

2006-09-03 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, Bill Page wrote: | But I still do not understand how you can talk about cross- | compilation and GCL. When GCL compiles some lisp source code | it produces intermediate C code which, yes could in principle | be compiled for another architecture, but then it immediately | attemp

RE: [Axiom-developer] RE: cross-compiling Axiom

2006-09-03 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, Bill Page wrote: | What am I missing? the cross-compiled GCL will on the target (which is also the host). [...] | > so you would at least need a mips emulator, which I doubt exists. http://www.linux-mips.org/wiki/Emulators -- Gaby

RE: [Axiom-developer] RE: cross-compiling Axiom

2006-09-03 Thread Bill Page
On September 3, 2006 8:02 PM Tim Daly wrote: > > Axiom was ported to the Zaurus handheld using cross-compilation. > Camm does it in the Debian setup. No, I don't think that is true. At least I know it isn't true for the version of Axiom that I run on my Zaurus. Axiom is built on Debian like all o

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: cross-compiling Axiom

2006-09-03 Thread root
CY, Axiom was ported to the Zaurus handheld using cross-compilation. Camm does it in the Debian setup. There are two methods generally used, CROSS-COMPILATION and CROSS-MOUNTING. CROSS-COMPILATION involves two systems, B -- the build system and T -- the target system. You compile on B but tel

RE: [Axiom-developer] RE: cross-compiling Axiom

2006-09-03 Thread C Y
Gaby, just for my own information: Is this issue similar to (say) compiling CMUCL or SBCL for a new platform, working from a current one? I always understood cross-compiliation to be the production of a binary for a platform that does not currently have any existing binary, using a running binary

RE: [Axiom-developer] RE: cross-compiling Axiom

2006-09-03 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, Bill Page wrote: | | | > -Original Message- | > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gabriel Dos Reis | > Sent: September 3, 2006 2:44 PM | > To: Bill Page | > Cc: axiom-developer@nongnu.org | > Subject: Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: cross-comp

RE: [Axiom-developer] RE: cross-compiling Axiom

2006-09-03 Thread Bill Page
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gabriel Dos Reis > Sent: September 3, 2006 2:44 PM > To: Bill Page > Cc: axiom-developer@nongnu.org > Subject: Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: cross-compiling Axiom > > > "Bill Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: cross-compiling Axiom

2006-09-03 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
"Bill Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | I don't know who doesn't know what doesn't work. The issue is not who doesn't know, but why you believe that anyone suggesting cross-compilation of Axiom does not know how lisp works, as you suggested in earlier message. That would help clarify confusio

[Axiom-developer] RE: cross-compiling Axiom

2006-09-03 Thread Bill Page
I don't know who doesn't know what doesn't work. I just asked how can this be done with gcl? > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Gabriel Dos Reis > Sent: September 3, 2006 1:57 PM > To: Bill Page > Cc: axiom-developer@nongnu.org; 'root'

[Axiom-developer] RE: cross-compiling Axiom

2006-09-03 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, Bill Page wrote: | On September 3, 2006 1:41 PM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: | > ... | > Bill Page wroteL | > | What sense does it make to try to do a lisp save-system to some | > | other hardware platform? | > | > Properly distinguish build, host and target specific tools and files

[Axiom-developer] RE: cross-compiling Axiom

2006-09-03 Thread Bill Page
On September 3, 2006 1:41 PM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > ... > Bill Page wroteL > | What sense does it make to try to do a lisp save-system to some > | other hardware platform? > > Properly distinguish build, host and target specific tools and files. > Make sure that, for example, when GCL tries to

[Axiom-developer] Re: cross-compiling Axiom

2006-09-03 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, Bill Page wrote: | On September 1, 2006 7:40 PM Gabriel Dos Reis | > | > On Fri, 1 Sep 2006, Tim Daly wrote: | > | > | Please explain what you mean by cross-compilation. | > | > Benjamin Kosnik tried to explain that in April on this list. | > Imagine I'm running on x86-based ma

[Axiom-developer] cross-compiling Axiom

2006-09-03 Thread Bill Page
On September 1, 2006 7:40 PM Gabriel Dos Reis > > On Fri, 1 Sep 2006, Tim Daly wrote: > > | Please explain what you mean by cross-compilation. > > Benjamin Kosnik tried to explain that in April on this list. > Imagine I'm running on x86-based machine, and I must build > binaries for a PowerPC-ba

[Axiom-developer] awk and espace

2006-09-03 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
I believe there was a discussion yesterday about awk and escapes involving $, \ and debian. While working on the makefiles for something unrelated, I happen to notice that on a non-debian system I have the following warnings awk: cmd. line:3: warning: escape sequence `\$' treated as plain `$'

Re: [Axiom-developer] silver checkout

2006-09-03 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Every attempt I make to check out the silver branch fails with | svn: Can't open file '...random file name...' | | There appears to be no way to recover and continue. | Each failure complains that axiom/trunk/axiom is locked. | svn cleanup axiom fails | | Is an

[Axiom-developer] silver checkout

2006-09-03 Thread root
Every attempt I make to check out the silver branch fails with svn: Can't open file '...random file name...' There appears to be no way to recover and continue. Each failure complains that axiom/trunk/axiom is locked. svn cleanup axiom fails Is anyone able to check out the silver branch? t ___