[Axiom-developer] Re: Which source distributions should we list?

2007-05-27 Thread daly
Cliff, > I was under the impression we were going to the following for > "official" use: > Silver: GIT/svn > Gold: CVS That's not incorrect, just incomplete. I'm not sure we need to mention silver outside the mailing list but that's up to you. > ARCH is not undergoing active developmen

[Axiom-developer] Re: Which source distributions should we list?

2007-05-27 Thread daly
Cliff, > 1. What are the "approved" sources for AxiomGold? I am assuming CVS > on Savannah and Sourceforge? The "master" copy lives in Arch on axiom-developer.org. It is mirrored to CVS on Sourceforge and CVS on Savannah. The outside, non-developer world seems mostly to be CVS. > 2. Is the mos

[Axiom-developer] Re: Which source distributions should we list?

2007-05-27 Thread daly
Bill, > I fear that since build-improvements is cloned from the current > trunk and wh-sandbox is cloned from build-improvements, there > might be some considerable loss in "mergibility" if we were to > just "pull the rug out from under them" so as to speak and > wholesale replace trunk with the c

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: Which source distributions should we list?

2007-05-27 Thread C Y
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I believe we should list them all. Each developer has a choice of the > source code control mechanism that fits his needs and interests. > Gaby and Waldek seem to like SVN. Bill likes Darcs. The silver version > uses SVN/git. The main gold version will continue us

[Axiom-developer] RE: wiki AxiomSources page

2007-05-27 Thread C Y
--- Bill Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But so far he has not made these changes. I apologize for this - I am traveling this weekend and have not had the chance to do it. I will take care of it when I get back. CY _

[Axiom-developer] Re: Which source distributions should we list?

2007-05-27 Thread daly
Ralf, > Which source distributions should we list? I believe we should list them all. Each developer has a choice of the source code control mechanism that fits his needs and interests. Gaby and Waldek seem to like SVN. Bill likes Darcs. The silver version uses SVN/git. The main gold version wil

[Axiom-developer] Re: Axiom silver branch: Changes to 'master'

2007-05-27 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
(/axiom/branches/daly) in /home/gdr/src/Axiom/daly to 21170. U axiom/CHANGELOG U axiom/src/interp/Makefile.pamphlet U axiom/src/boot/Makefile.pamphlet U axiom/lsp/Makefile.pamphlet soliton[22:47]% head axiom/CHANGELOG ~/src/Axiom/daly 20070527 sxw lsp/Makefile Fix

[Axiom-developer] Re: Axiom silver branch: Changes to 'master'

2007-05-27 Thread daly
Gaby, I made a commit that simply adds some explicit lines to the CHANGELOG to document the particular files touched so we can see if the new changes are showing up on the sourceforge list. t ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-developer@non

[Axiom-developer] Re: Axiom silver branch: Changes to 'master'

2007-05-27 Thread daly
Gaby, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ^ fixed. --t ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-developer@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer

[Axiom-developer] Re: wiki AxiomSources page

2007-05-27 Thread Stephen Wilson
"Bill Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You need a user id and password assigned that allows you to bypass > the spam restrictions. I would be very glad to assign such a user > id and password for you. Please send me the user id and initial > password that you would like me to assign by private e

[Axiom-developer] RE: wiki AxiomSources page

2007-05-27 Thread Bill Page
Steve, On May 27, 2007 9:04 PM you wrote: > > I was interested in updating the AxiomSources page on the wiki > following Cliff's recent concerns: > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/axiom-developer/2007-05/msg00449.html As a result of this email I suggested that Cliff might be interested in

[Axiom-developer] Re: backslash-newline in Makefiles

2007-05-27 Thread Stephen Wilson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Stephen, > > I used your posted diff for the Make newline problem. > > The changeset has been applied. > The commit is done to git and SVN. This is great news. Many thanks. > > Thanks, > Tim Steve ___ Axiom-developer

Re: [Axiom-developer] Axiom silver branch: Changes to 'master'

2007-05-27 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | > Please could you set up the git commit message so that it goes to | >[EMAIL PROTECTED] ^ Oops: I should have said: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ^ -- Gaby ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-

[Axiom-developer] Re: backslash-newline in Makefiles

2007-05-27 Thread daly
Stephen, The git-pull worked fine as you typed it. I had a typo in my command line. We should be able to do git-pulls from now on which will greatly simplify the task. Tim ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-developer@nongnu.org http://lists.

[Axiom-developer] Re: Axiom silver branch: Changes to 'master'

2007-05-27 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Sun, 27 May 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | > Please could you set up the git commit message so that it goes to | >[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | done --t Thanks! -- Gaby ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-developer@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org

[Axiom-developer] Axiom silver branch: Changes to 'master'

2007-05-27 Thread daly
> Please could you set up the git commit message so that it goes to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] done --t ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-developer@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer

Re: [Axiom-developer] Axiom silver branch: Changes to 'master'

2007-05-27 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | CHANGELOG|1 + | lsp/Makefile.pamphlet|6 +- | src/boot/Makefile.pamphlet | 132 ++-- | src/interp/Makefile.pamphlet | 1638 +- Tim -- Please could set up the git commit message so that i

[Axiom-developer] backslash-newline in Makefiles

2007-05-27 Thread daly
Stephen, I used your posted diff for the Make newline problem. The changeset has been applied. The commit is done to git and SVN. Thanks, Tim ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-developer@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axio

[Axiom-developer] Axiom silver branch: Changes to 'master'

2007-05-27 Thread git
CHANGELOG|1 + lsp/Makefile.pamphlet|6 +- src/boot/Makefile.pamphlet | 132 ++-- src/interp/Makefile.pamphlet | 1638 +- 4 files changed, 889 insertions(+), 888 deletions(-) New commits: commit 09566b0d7471489e2c12063

[Axiom-developer] Re: backslash-newline in Makefiles

2007-05-27 Thread Stephen Wilson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Stephen, > > The git-pull isn't answering the page so I suspect something is > misconfigured as I can git-pull silver. I'll have to look into that. Strange. I coppied a local tree of silver and, logging in as user git to assure myself that others have access: steve

[Axiom-developer] backslash-newline in Makefiles

2007-05-27 Thread daly
Stephen, The git-pull isn't answering the page so I suspect something is misconfigured as I can git-pull silver. I'll have to look into that. In the meantime I'll use your posted diff. re: your changes Yes, they are what I'd consider a changeset. They address one particular problem that affec

[Axiom-developer] RE: Axiom on MediaWiki - Graphics

2007-05-27 Thread Markus Cozowicz
Hi, I couldn't find anything on how to set the PostScript output file interactively (=w/o the ui). Any hints? It doesn't have to be returned through the pipe, as I need to run convert anyway. Thx Markus ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-develope

[Axiom-developer] RE: Axiom on MediaWiki (was: Axiom)

2007-05-27 Thread Markus Cozowicz
Hi, I'm filtering the commands you provided to improve security. I don't perform chroot and still use the apache user (too much work). I improved the Latex a little. For installation or linking please use http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Axiom . I tested http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/Ve

Re: [Texmacs-dev] Lisp/TeX/TeXmacs was: Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: gcl, shared libraries

2007-05-27 Thread Henri Lesourd
Ralf Hemmecke wrote: TeX is admittedly a strange language, but I don't think that that TeXmacs is any easier. Honestly, TeX is an horror, you don't even have the possibility to name local variables, you have only a fixed number of registers, like in assembly language ! By the way, exactly what

Re: [Axiom-developer] bachslash-newline in Makefiles

2007-05-27 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | re: Stephen's patch | | A moment's thought will convince you that Stephen's patch is NOT | a rework of an existing patch since the Makefiles are nowhere the same. | Thus, since the idea was not previously posted as a diff-Naur to Gold | it is NOT rework or cherry-picki

Re: [Axiom-developer] ISSAC papers/presentations?

2007-05-27 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
C Y <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Gaby, after checking the ISSAC 2007 page and seeing the registration | fees, I fear non-student, non-ACM/SIG, un-funded me will not be | attending after all :-(. :-( | I don't know what the copyright restrictions are on ISSAC submitted | papers and presentations

Re: [Axiom-developer] bachslash-newline in Makefiles

2007-05-27 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] | Those changes that I understood I picked up and merged into | the new "silver" branch. One aspect of a VCS such as SVN or GIT is that when someone picks a change, it will pick it from a version number that controls the whole branch. In a community effort, it

Re: [Axiom-developer] backslash-newline in Makefiles.

2007-05-27 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Sun, 27 May 2007, C Y wrote: | ! Disinterest is more fatal to a project than any | disorganization could ever be Indeed. And disinterest is lurking around when no forward move or progress is being made. -- Gaby ___ Axiom-developer ma

Re: [Axiom-developer] bachslash-newline in Makefiles

2007-05-27 Thread Stephen Wilson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Future updates to "silver" will be complete changesets. > The philosophy will be to try to "box up" a change so that it > can be added or removed as a whole, which as far as I can tell > is the whole reason for changesets. I am curious about this point. Does the patch

Re: [Axiom-developer] backslash-newline in Makefiles.

2007-05-27 Thread C Y
--- Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is Axiom. The goal is to redo everything, especially known and > solved problems. We have about 25 years left for that. I would rather phrase it as the goal is to implement the solutions to problems (known or unknown) in a fashion such th

[Axiom-developer] bachslash-newline in Makefiles

2007-05-27 Thread daly
re: Stephen's patch A moment's thought will convince you that Stephen's patch is NOT a rework of an existing patch since the Makefiles are nowhere the same. Thus, since the idea was not previously posted as a diff-Naur to Gold it is NOT rework or cherry-picking. Tim _

Re: [Axiom-developer] backslash-newline in Makefiles.

2007-05-27 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Sun, 27 May 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote: | > This is Axiom. The goal is to redo everything, especially known and solved | > problems. We have about 25 years left for that. | | If this problem is solved, why does silver not reflect that? This is Axiom. -- Gaby __

[Axiom-developer] bachslash-newline in Makefiles

2007-05-27 Thread daly
Ah, controvery. Sigh. I did a diff -r --brief axiom-gold-50 build-improvements and the same with wh-sandbox. For each file that differed I tried to (a) decide why the change was made, (b) how it was related to other changes in the branch, (c) how it was related to the original gold version, and (d

Re: [Axiom-developer] backslash-newline in Makefiles.

2007-05-27 Thread Stephen Wilson
Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, 27 May 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote: > > [...] > > | This does not make anything worse. Im just posting a patch against > | silver. Whats the big deal? > > I don't think there is a big. Your patches are most welcome, and I do hope > they e

Re: [Axiom-developer] backslash-newline in Makefiles.

2007-05-27 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Sun, 27 May 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote: [...] | This does not make anything worse. Im just posting a patch against | silver. Whats the big deal? I don't think there is a big. Your patches are most welcome, and I do hope they eventually get included. This is Axiom. The goal is to redo eve

RE: [Axiom-developer] backslash-newline in Makefiles.

2007-05-27 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Sun, 27 May 2007, Bill Page wrote: [...] | It is often unpleasant to see work being re-done | without any attribution. I'm not unpleasantly surprised at all. This is Axiom. -- Gaby ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-developer@nongn

Re: [Axiom-developer] backslash-newline in Makefiles.

2007-05-27 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Sun, 27 May 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote: | The issue is simple. I am not interested in building off of | build-improvments or wh-sandbox. By no means I intended to imply you should do otherwise. [...] | It is not one of my priorities to merge build-improvments or | wh-sandbox with silver.

Re: [Axiom-developer] backslash-newline in Makefiles.

2007-05-27 Thread Stephen Wilson
"Bill Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Stephen, > > On May 27, 2007 5:42 PM you wrote: > > > > Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Stephen Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > | Now on the Axisp branch: > > > |[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/swilson/axisp > > > | > > >

RE: [Axiom-developer] backslash-newline in Makefiles.

2007-05-27 Thread Bill Page
Stephen, On May 27, 2007 5:42 PM you wrote: > > Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Stephen Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > | Now on the Axisp branch: > > |[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/swilson/axisp > > | > > |commit 68ee822219e707ea366fa877e0a99ae8b45c4dc1 > > | > >

[Axiom-developer] Re: back

2007-05-27 Thread Stephen Wilson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Steve, > > Thanks for the patch. > > I see from the mail that you've put up a git. > Is your patch there? Can I pull from it? > > Tim Yes, the patch is there. git-pull should give you the posted patch and that alone. Please let me know if it works out. Thanks, Ste

[Axiom-developer] back

2007-05-27 Thread daly
Steve, Thanks for the patch. I see from the mail that you've put up a git. Is your patch there? Can I pull from it? Tim ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-developer@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer

[Axiom-developer] back

2007-05-27 Thread daly
my, my, my, it has been a busy week here. --Tim ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-developer@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer

[Axiom-developer] ISSAC papers/presentations?

2007-05-27 Thread C Y
Gaby, after checking the ISSAC 2007 page and seeing the registration fees, I fear non-student, non-ACM/SIG, un-funded me will not be attending after all :-(. I don't know what the copyright restrictions are on ISSAC submitted papers and presentations, but will you be able to make your work availab

Re: [Axiom-developer] backslash-newline in Makefiles.

2007-05-27 Thread Stephen Wilson
Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Stephen Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > | Now on the Axisp branch: > |[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/swilson/axisp > | > |commit 68ee822219e707ea366fa877e0a99ae8b45c4dc1 > | > | Remove backslash-newline sequences from single-quoted strings i

Re: [Axiom-developer] backslash-newline in Makefiles.

2007-05-27 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
Stephen Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Now on the Axisp branch: |[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/swilson/axisp | |commit 68ee822219e707ea366fa877e0a99ae8b45c4dc1 | | Remove backslash-newline sequences from single-quoted strings in | makefiles. I may be wrong but believe those are solved p

Re: [Axiom-developer] backslash-newline in Makefiles.

2007-05-27 Thread Stephen Wilson
Hi Ralf, Ralf Hemmecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > For convinience, attached is a patch against current Silver. > > What is the "current Silver"??? Where is it? On Sourceforge? The current Silver is a git repo on axiom-developer, and an svn repo on Sourceforge. Tim gave the details here:

Re: [Axiom-developer] backslash-newline in Makefiles.

2007-05-27 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
For convinience, attached is a patch against current Silver. What is the "current Silver"??? Where is it? On Sourceforge? Ralf ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-developer@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer

[Axiom-developer] backslash-newline in Makefiles.

2007-05-27 Thread Stephen Wilson
Now on the Axisp branch: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/swilson/axisp commit 68ee822219e707ea366fa877e0a99ae8b45c4dc1 Remove backslash-newline sequences from single-quoted strings in makefiles. The makefiles broke with GNU Make 3.81. From make-3.81/Changelog: * WARNING: Backward-incom

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: Axiom on MediaWiki (was: Axiom)

2007-05-27 Thread Martin Rubey
"Bill Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Markus, > > Thank you very much for this initial work! I think it is very > promising. > > On May 27, 2007 12:19 PM Markus Cozowicz wrote: > > > > I found some time on the weekend to work on it. > > > > Have a look at http://www.eisber.net/StatWiki/ind

[Axiom-developer] RE: Axiom on MediaWiki (was: Axiom)

2007-05-27 Thread Bill Page
Markus, Thank you very much for this initial work! I think it is very promising. On May 27, 2007 12:19 PM Markus Cozowicz wrote: > > I found some time on the weekend to work on it. > > Have a look at http://www.eisber.net/StatWiki/index.php/Temp > > I'm actually reusing -tag from MediaWiki, wh

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: [Axiom-commit] SF.net SVN: axiom: [571] branches/wh-sandbox

2007-05-27 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Sun, 27 May 2007, Waldek Hebisch wrote: | > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | > | > [...] | > | > | + * configure.ac.pamphlet: add --with-lisp-flavor option | > | > Why would you want to have this specified on command line? | > | | This option is needed for openmcl: running openmcl with --help |

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: [Axiom-commit] SF.net SVN: axiom: [571] branches/wh-sandbox

2007-05-27 Thread Waldek Hebisch
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > [...] > > | + * configure.ac.pamphlet: add --with-lisp-flavor option > > Why would you want to have this specified on command line? > This option is needed for openmcl: running openmcl with --help option give no identifing info. I tried also --version but ope

[Axiom-developer] Re: [Axiom-commit] SF.net SVN: axiom: [571] branches/wh-sandbox

2007-05-27 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] | + * configure.ac.pamphlet: add --with-lisp-flavor option Why would you want to have this specified on command line? -- Gaby ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-developer@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mai

Re: [Axiom-developer] yet a better version of the axiom mode for emacs.

2007-05-27 Thread C Y
--- Martin Rubey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A light trial on Windows XP using the old Windows binary works! > > good. Which emacs? Maybe you could add a section stating where it > runs and where it doesn't, using a tabular, for example. That's not a bad idea, but for now it's pretty simple:

Re: [Axiom-mail] Re: [Axiom-developer] [ANN] yet a better version of the axiom mode for emacs.

2007-05-27 Thread Martin Rubey
Ralf Hemmecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > A port to xemacs and vi would be superb. I believe Ralf is using xemacs, > > Thomas and Christian from my department are using vi and TeXmacs. Thomas > > said > > he'd switch to emacs if emacs would display output as LaTeX, though. > > Have you loo

Re: [Axiom-developer] Cleaning issues

2007-05-27 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
On 05/27/2007 04:34 AM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: Waldek Hebisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | I have looked at older issues in Issue Tracker and it seems that | there are significant number of issues which are just users not | understanding what Axiom is doing and expecting different result. | |

Re: [Axiom-mail] Re: [Axiom-developer] [ANN] yet a better version of the axiom mode for emacs.

2007-05-27 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
A port to xemacs and vi would be superb. I believe Ralf is using xemacs, Thomas and Christian from my department are using vi and TeXmacs. Thomas said he'd switch to emacs if emacs would display output as LaTeX, though. Have you looked at preview-latex? Maybe you can convince it to work toget

Re: [Axiom-mail] Re: [Axiom-developer] [ANN] yet a better version of the axiom mode for emacs.

2007-05-27 Thread Martin Rubey
C Y <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have uploaded this latest version to > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SandBoxAxiomEmacsMode for convenience (pdf, > tangled version, what have you.) great! > A light trial on Windows XP using the old Windows binary works! good. Which emacs? Maybe you could