Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| When compiling with an ANSI common lisp compiler, the use of "sequence"
| in src/interp/parsing.lisp is resoled as referring to the standard symbol
| sequence, which belongs to locked standard packages. I would suggest
| to rename it to rule-sequence
On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote:
| Unfortunately, I read meaning into your initial comments about the
| parser work which you may not have intended. I apologize for allowing
| a debate to ensue which took a tone I would have much rather avoided.
Apologies accepted.
Let's move on techn
When compiling with an ANSI common lisp compiler, the use of "sequence"
in src/interp/parsing.lisp is resoled as referring to the standard symbol
sequence, which belongs to locked standard packages. I would suggest
to rename it to rule-sequence, and propagate the change down to the
parser.
-- Ga
It looks to me that the variable $LastCxArg in the routine
/foobar from src/interp/spad.lisp is a type for |$LastCxArg|.
-- Gaby
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Gaby,
I am frustrated with the current environment in the Axiom community.
It is a subjective opinion of mine that some comments you make are
intended to be abrasive more than informative. I do try to look past
this personal impression, and to seek opportunities for compromise and
understanding.
On Thu, 2 Aug 2007, Ondrej Certik wrote:
| > | So it cannot go to the Debian main distribution, and that of course is
| > | a major problem, at least for me.
| >
| > The linux distribution I've been for a decade now has a button that
| > let me install "non-open source" software of highly practica
On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote:
| > | The system is not extensible or flexible by any rational
| > | measurement.
| >
| > I suspect it is more accurate to say:
| >
| > The system is not extensible or flexible by any Stephen Wilson's
| > measurement.
| >
| > Care should be exerci
On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote:
| If you dont understand the issues, thats your problem.
No, I have no problem. You have a problem.
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On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote:
| Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
|
| > (iii) of course, the answer is yes. As I mentioned earlier, there are two
| > parser in Axiom, an old and a new. You're looking at the old compiler.
|
| Of course I am looking at the old compiler
> | So it cannot go to the Debian main distribution, and that of course is
> | a major problem, at least for me.
>
> The linux distribution I've been for a decade now has a button that
> let me install "non-open source" software of highly practical value to me.
The technical thing is not a problem
Camm Maguire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Greetings! Will try to take a look this evening -- thanks so much for
> the report!
If you will be working with the modified version of Silver to
investigate, then the following patch should be applied on top of the
previous patches I have provided.
T
Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> (iii) of course, the answer is yes. As I mentioned earlier, there are two
> parser in Axiom, an old and a new. You're looking at the old compiler.
Of course I am looking at the old compiler, it is the only compiler.
It accepts one AST, not two.
Greetings! Will try to take a look this evening -- thanks so much for
the report!
More later,
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On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote:
| Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| > (1) Which, of course, are untrue.
You asked the following questions:
(i) Can it incrementally parse input as the user is typing, thus
making it a usable component in an IDE?
(ii) Is the
Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> (1) Which, of course, are untrue.
The SPAD parser/lexer is line oriented, which means it does not
incrementally parse user input by design.
The SPAD parser drops column information after the lexical stage (see
PARSE-NewExpr).
The AST is not docume
On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, C Y wrote:
| > Active people from both community will be attending the Aldor
| > workshop. That is an excellent opportunity to further the handling
| > of pressing issues, directions, etc. I would have thought interested
| > people would be very willing to take on the opportu
--- Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have not seen anyone advocating to leave issues hanging.
So long as we leave the question of using or not using Aldor in Axiom
undecided as a project, it is hanging.
> Active people from both community will be attending the Aldor
> work
On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote:
| OK! You caught me!
I did not mean too. Oh well, ainsi va la vie.
[...]
| But for the record, the answers to my original questions are no, no,
| no, and no.
(1) Which, of course, are untrue.
(2) And, as expected, your questions were rhetorical.
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Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote:
>
> | Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> | > Excellent. For some reasons, I was under the impression that you looked
> | > at the code before starting your new compiler.
> |
> | Speculation?
>
On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote:
| Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| > Excellent. For some reasons, I was under the impression that you looked
| > at the code before starting your new compiler.
|
| Speculation?
I did not speculate. That is why I said if you read the code,
Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Excellent. For some reasons, I was under the impression that you looked
> at the code before starting your new compiler.
Speculation?
Steve
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On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote:
| Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| > You can answer all those questions by looking at the source code.
|
| I have looked at the source code.
Excellent. For some reasons, I was under the impression that you looked
at the code before startin
Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> You can answer all those questions by looking at the source code.
I have looked at the source code. There is a difference in terms of
functionality and applicability which the new parser is designed to
accommodate and which the old parsers are not.
On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, C Y wrote:
| From my standpoint, the Aldor issue is now closed - they have chosen an
| incompatible license (which is their right, no problem) and we can now
| proceed to improve/redo the existing one without fear that the work is
| unnecessary. Resolution either way is better
--- Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> No amount of emails or speculations to this list will have any
> impact.
Not on Aldor, no. My PRIMARY concern is what impact Aldor will have on
the Axiom project, and that CAN be delt with on this list - it must be.
>From my standpoint, the Ald
On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote:
| Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
|
| > Stephen Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| >
| > [...]
| >
| > | There is also the question of being able to provide the compiler
| > | components in the form of a library which can be used by other
Stephen Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Stephen Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > | There is also the question of being able to provide the compiler
> > | components in the form of a library which can be used by othe
On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, C Y wrote:
| --- Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|
| > On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, C Y wrote:
| >
| > | Whatever the intent may be, the legal text of the license itself is
| > | what will ultimately govern what can and cannot be done, within the
| > | limits of the law.
Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Stephen Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> [...]
>
> | There is also the question of being able to provide the compiler
> | components in the form of a library which can be used by other aspects
> | Axiom. For example, one would be able to use
--- Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, C Y wrote:
>
> | Whatever the intent may be, the legal text of the license itself is
> | what will ultimately govern what can and cannot be done, within the
> | limits of the law. That is why I focus on the text of the licens
Stephen Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
| There is also the question of being able to provide the compiler
| components in the form of a library which can be used by other aspects
| Axiom. For example, one would be able to use the new parser and
| (forthcoming) type checker to support a
Didier,
The idea of improving the current Axiom compiler is itself not new
(Aldor is an example), but this particular effort is only a few months
old. Consequently, it is not well developed at this point. In
concrete terms, we have a new parser which can handle a good subset
(say 90%) of the cur
C Y <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
| So you don't agree with Tim's analysis here?
| http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/axiom-developer/2007-07/msg00147.html
|
| I suppose there's no reason not to ask NAG, but clearly they aren't
| selling Axiom any longer and their commercial trademark HAS
On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Stephen Wilson wrote:
| Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| > CY wrote:
| > | Indeed, Steve's new compiler may end up looking like that - we'll see.
| > | If Aldor and the new compiler are both able to compile the Axiom
| > | Algebra that's the best case scenario.
|
Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> | Indeed, Steve's new compiler may end up looking like that - we'll see.
> | If Aldor and the new compiler are both able to compile the Axiom
> | Algebra that's the best case scenario.
>
> I think Aldor.org would not mind a second implementation -- a
(Sorry, meant to send this to the whole list)
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From: didier deshommes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 1 août 2007 11:53
Subject: Re: [Axiom-developer] Axiom meeting at ISSAC
To: Stephen Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
31 Jul 2007 21:18:26 -0400, Stephen Wilson <[EMAIL
On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, C Y wrote:
|
| --- Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|
| > C Y <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| >
| > [...]
| >
| > | If Axiom depended on Aldor, it could not be used for such an
| > | undertaking.
| >
| > Nobody prevents you from building an Aldor compiler, written
On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, C Y wrote:
| Whatever the intent may be, the legal text of the license itself is
| what will ultimately govern what can and cannot be done, within the
| limits of the law. That is why I focus on the text of the license
| itself - intent lasts only as long as the individuals do
--- Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> C Y <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> [...]
>
> | If Axiom depended on Aldor, it could not be used for such an
> | undertaking.
>
> Nobody prevents you from building an Aldor compiler, written in Lisp
> for example.
Indeed, Steve's new compile
--- Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> C Y <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> [...]
>
> | If I understand correctly the terms of
> | this license, any commercial activity around the code base can be
> | undertaken ONLY by those with the exclusive rights to do so.
>
> We can spend lot of
Hello Camm,
I am interested in your opinion about the following error, which is
occurring for me during the compilation of src/algebra/tree.spad:
---
Error:
Fast links are on: do (si::use-fast-links nil) for debugging
Signalled by |NEWLOOKUPINADDCHAIN|.
Condition in |newLookupInAddChain|
C Y <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
| If I understand correctly the terms of
| this license, any commercial activity around the code base can be
| undertaken ONLY by those with the exclusive rights to do so.
We can spend lot of time speculating; I would have thoug
C Y <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
| If Axiom depended on Aldor, it could not be used for such an
| undertaking.
Nobody prevents you from building an Aldor compiler, written in Lisp
for example.
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"Ondrej Certik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
| So it cannot go to the Debian main distribution, and that of course is
| a major problem, at least for me.
The linux distribution I've been for a decade now has a button that
let me install "non-open source" software of highly practical value t
C Y <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
| That's probably a moot point, at least at the present time - why would
| anyone want to fork Aldor?
Why would anyone want to fork Axiom?
| My opinion is that the non-commercial restriction is a no-go - I would
| prefer to work with Steven on his new langu
--- Bill Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Thus, open Aldor ideally could make significant strides which
> > > would be available to the commercial version, but the latter
> > > could "embrace and extend" the former, effectively co-opting this
> > > work and potentially draining open Aldor o
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