Re: [Axiom-developer] [fricas-devel] Re: trademarks

2013-04-25 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
Waldek Hebisch writes: [...] | Also, I think it would be reasonable to change name to | FriCAS Wiki and change logo (currently all pages show | Axiom logo). this goes back to a question I asked some time ago. Glad to see it has found a more definitive answer. -- Gaby

Re: [Axiom-developer] [fricas-devel] Re: trademarks

2013-04-25 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
Eugene Surowitz writes: [...] | The issue is deeper though: An inspection of only the src/interp | source files reveals numerous references to 'axiom' or 'Axiom'. | FriCAS appears to use boot code -- I assume, without having got | around to inspecting it in more detail, that it too may contain |

Re: [Axiom-developer] [fricas-devel] Re: trademarks

2013-04-23 Thread u1204
Feel free to delete the CAISS thank-you information. They get thanked on the Axiom home page. I have no opinion about changing anything on the Wiki provided that any use of "Axiom" actually refers to the Axiom project. I see you've already taken steps to make it clear what system is used. Thank y

Re: [Axiom-developer] [fricas-devel] Re: trademarks

2013-04-23 Thread u1204
>> I think Tim would already be happy, if we modify the >> >> axiom >> >> that appears on every outputbox of >> >> http://axiom-wiki.newsynthesis.org/SandBoxObserverAsIdempotent2 >> (and every such box on such generated output) into "fricas". >> >> I don't care if fricas-devel get's more bug re

Re: [Axiom-developer] [fricas-devel] Re: trademarks

2013-04-23 Thread u1204
Ralf, >We are in the unfortunate situation of having 3 systems that are >terribly similar but not equal. Would be nice if we converged, but I >don't see this to happen in the near future. So it's only fair if people >are made aware of the differences of the systems. You'll notice that I have made

Re: [Axiom-developer] [fricas-devel] Re: trademarks

2013-04-23 Thread Bill Page
On 23 April 2013 15:22, Waldek Hebisch wrote: > Bill Page wrote: >> >> The frontpage of the website >> >> http://axiom-wiki.newsynthesis.org >> >> and more specifically the following linked page >> >> http://axiom-wiki.newsynthesis.org/AboutAxiom >> >> Refers to all three "Axiom-related" projects

Re: [Axiom-developer] [fricas-devel] Re: trademarks

2013-04-23 Thread Waldek Hebisch
Bill Page wrote: > > The frontpage of the website > > http://axiom-wiki.newsynthesis.org > > and more specifically the following linked page > > http://axiom-wiki.newsynthesis.org/AboutAxiom > > Refers to all three "Axiom-related" projects (plus Reduce, Maxima, > Sage although I think Waldek h

Re: [Axiom-developer] [fricas-devel] Re: trademarks

2013-04-23 Thread Waldek Hebisch
> > I think Tim would already be happy, if we modify the > > axiom > > that appears on every outputbox of > > http://axiom-wiki.newsynthesis.org/SandBoxObserverAsIdempotent2 > (and every such box on such generated output) into "fricas". > > I don't care if fricas-devel get's more bug reports i

Re: [Axiom-developer] [fricas-devel] Re: trademarks

2013-04-23 Thread Eugene Surowitz
One Wiki with a clear indication which variant is being exercised and auto-direction to the appropriate list for comments and bug reports. Cheers, Gene On 4/23/2013 12:07 PM, Waldek Hebisch wrote: Eugene Surowitz wrote: Personally, I would very much prefer a single wiki. I believe that users

Re: [Axiom-developer] [fricas-devel] Re: trademarks

2013-04-23 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
I think Tim would already be happy, if we modify the axiom that appears on every outputbox of http://axiom-wiki.newsynthesis.org/SandBoxObserverAsIdempotent2 (and every such box on such generated output) into "fricas". I don't care if fricas-devel get's more bug reports in this way. That would

Re: [Axiom-developer] [fricas-devel] Re: trademarks

2013-04-23 Thread Waldek Hebisch
Eugene Surowitz wrote: > > Personally, I would very much prefer a single wiki. > > I believe that users would have great difficulty in distinguishing > the various forks in a systematic way; they may not have > been the one to set up which ever variation was installed with > their working group.

Re: [Axiom-developer] [fricas-devel] Re: trademarks

2013-04-23 Thread Waldek Hebisch
Eugene Surowitz wrote: > > The issue is deeper though: An inspection of only the src/interp > source files reveals numerous references to 'axiom' or 'Axiom'. > FriCAS appears to use boot code -- I assume, without having got > around to inspecting it in more detail, that it too may contain > many s

Re: [Axiom-developer] [fricas-devel] Re: trademarks

2013-04-22 Thread Eugene Surowitz
I have known about 'sed' for a long time; but have had enough experience with global change mechanisms to avoid them like the plague. Cheers, Gene On 4/22/2013 1:42 PM, u1204 wrote: Already understood and I had already mirrored my comments to the FriCAS-devel list; just forgot to include OpenAx

Re: [Axiom-developer] [fricas-devel] Re: trademarks

2013-04-22 Thread u1204
>I am sorry, but changing variable names inside source code because of >a project fork seems incorrect to me. I think it would be both wrong >and even more confusing if FriCAS and OpenAxiom tried to give the >impression that they had no relation to each other and no relation at >all to the origina

Re: [Axiom-developer] [fricas-devel] Re: trademarks

2013-04-22 Thread Bill Page
I am sorry, but changing variable names inside source code because of a project fork seems incorrect to me. I think it would be both wrong and even more confusing if FriCAS and OpenAxiom tried to give the impression that they had no relation to each other and no relation at all to the original Axi

Re: [Axiom-developer] [fricas-devel] Re: trademarks

2013-04-22 Thread Bill Page
On 22 April 2013 13:42, u1204 wrote: >> Already understood and I had already mirrored my comments >> to the FriCAS-devel list; just forgot to include OpenAxiom. >> >> The issue is deeper though: An inspection of only the src/interp >> source files reveals numerous references to 'axiom' or 'Axiom'.

Re: [Axiom-developer] [fricas-devel] Re: trademarks

2013-04-22 Thread u1204
> Already understood and I had already mirrored my comments > to the FriCAS-devel list; just forgot to include OpenAxiom. > > The issue is deeper though: An inspection of only the src/interp > source files reveals numerous references to 'axiom' or 'Axiom'. > FriCAS appears to use boot code -- I as

Re: [Axiom-developer] [fricas-devel] Re: trademarks

2013-04-22 Thread Eugene Surowitz
Already understood and I had already mirrored my comments to the FriCAS-devel list; just forgot to include OpenAxiom. The issue is deeper though: An inspection of only the src/interp source files reveals numerous references to 'axiom' or 'Axiom'. FriCAS appears to use boot code -- I assume, witho

Re: [Axiom-developer] [fricas-devel] Re: trademarks

2013-04-22 Thread u1204
Eugene, The issue has nothing to do with the wiki. I don't care if the wiki uses Axiom. Axiom is open source software and can be used by anyone. The issue is using the Axiom name to label things that are not Axiom. In this instance, the web page http://axiom-wiki.newsynthesis.org/SandBoxOb

Re: [Axiom-developer] [fricas-devel] Re: trademarks

2013-04-22 Thread Bill Page
The frontpage of the website http://axiom-wiki.newsynthesis.org and more specifically the following linked page http://axiom-wiki.newsynthesis.org/AboutAxiom Refers to all three "Axiom-related" projects (plus Reduce, Maxima, Sage although I think Waldek has already disabled support for these "n

Re: [Axiom-developer] [fricas-devel] Re: trademarks

2013-04-22 Thread Eugene Surowitz
Personally, I would very much prefer a single wiki. I believe that users would have great difficulty in distinguishing the various forks in a systematic way; they may not have been the one to set up which ever variation was installed with their working group. Gene On 4/21/2013 11:00 PM, Bill Pa