Re: [Axiom-developer] Mailing List Etiquette

2007-09-19 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007, root wrote: | It is amazing to me that you seem to know so much about "what | this project's goals are" and "what this project really is". What really is amazing is that people have repeatedly asserted on this list that 'heavy use of Lisp' was part of the `GOALs of the origi

Re: [Axiom-developer] Mailing List Etiquette

2007-09-19 Thread root
Gaby, >I know what is in those directories and waht isn't. For example, >there is nothing in the readme from (quoted here many times) >as defining `heavy of Lisp' as one the GOALS of the `original Axiom' >project. This project started with a phone call on August 20th, 2000. That's 7 years ago. I

Re: [Axiom-developer] Mailing List Etiquette

2007-09-19 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007, root wrote: | The "Axiom" project is on sourceforge.net/projects/axiom and | savannah.nongnu.org/projects/axiom. I know what is in those directories and waht isn't. For example, there is nothing in the readme from (quoted here many times) as defining `heavy of Lisp' as one t

Re: [Axiom-developer] Mailing List Etiquette

2007-09-19 Thread root
>| Given Tim's original open source project still retains the name Axiom, >| by default when I refer to Axiom I mean the Axiom open source project. > >I have no problem with that. However, it is also important to recognize >that the notion of `original Axiom project' is not unambiguous. For >man

Re: [Axiom-developer] Mailing List Etiquette

2007-09-18 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007, C Y wrote: | Given Tim's original open source project still retains the name Axiom, | by default when I refer to Axiom I mean the Axiom open source project. I have no problem with that. However, it is also important to recognize that the notion of `original Axiom project' i

Re: [Axiom-developer] Mailing List Etiquette

2007-09-18 Thread C Y
OK, I see the confusion. By "original project" I was referring to the first open source Axiom project, not the original IBM effort. Given Tim's original open source project still retains the name Axiom, by default when I refer to Axiom I mean the Axiom open source project. The naming of "Open Ax

Re: [Axiom-developer] Mailing List Etiquette

2007-09-18 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007, C Y wrote: | --- Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | > I believe "heavy use of Lisp" is a recent addition/invention to the | > so-called 'GOALS of the original Axiom system' -- one that is NOT | > mentioned in the readme, but that is easily forgotten or pulled out

Re: [Axiom-developer] Mailing List Etiquette

2007-09-18 Thread C Y
--- Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I believe "heavy use of Lisp" is a recent addition/invention to the > so-called 'GOALS of the original Axiom system' -- one that is NOT > mentioned in the readme, but that is easily forgotten or pulled out > of tin air. Correction then - the origi

Re: [Axiom-developer] Mailing List Etiquette

2007-09-18 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
C Y <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | --- Ondrej Certik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | > I don't know, never happened to me yet. But one thing is what I like | > or don't like and another thing is how to spend my time effectively | > (i.e. not working on a project, if there is a better alternative).

Re: [Axiom-developer] Mailing List Etiquette

2007-09-18 Thread C Y
--- Ondrej Certik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know, never happened to me yet. But one thing is what I like > or don't like and another thing is how to spend my time effectively > (i.e. not working on a project, if there is a better alternative). In the case of Axiom (the original project

Re: [Axiom-developer] Mailing List Etiquette

2007-09-18 Thread Ondrej Certik
On 9/18/07, Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 18 Sep 2007, Ondrej Certik wrote: > > | That said, of > | course I wouldn't like it, when someone forks a project that I started > | and worked for a long time. > > Even if you

Re: [Axiom-developer] Mailing List Etiquette

2007-09-18 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007, Ondrej Certik wrote: | That said, of | course I wouldn't like it, when someone forks a project that I started | and worked for a long time. Even if you gave incentive to create the fork? -- Gaby __

Re: [Axiom-developer] Mailing List Etiquette

2007-09-18 Thread Ondrej Certik
> I have no objection to your participation in this mailing list but... > > > Then [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the answer :-) > > It is inappropriate behavior to advertise or advocate your project > on this mailing list. You have private email as well as your own > project mailing list. Please do not do t

Re: [Axiom-developer] Mailing List Etiquette

2007-09-18 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Gaby, | | I have no objection to your participation in this mailing list but... | | > Then [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the answer :-) | | It is inappropriate behavior to advertise or advocate your project | on this mailing list. I was answering a specific question a

Re: [Axiom-developer] Mailing List Etiquette

2007-09-18 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: | Tim, | | I would have liked that all work on Axiom happens under one roof no matter | whether there are now (unfortunately) 3 different projects or just one. Ralf -- Tim has absolutely the right to run his project as he wants -- just like any one of

Re: [Axiom-developer] Mailing List Etiquette

2007-09-18 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
Tim, I would have liked that all work on Axiom happens under one roof no matter whether there are now (unfortunately) 3 different projects or just one. We all want a better CAS. I must say that I come to the conclusion that you rather like 3 separate projects that do not communicate and lear

Re: [Axiom-developer] Mailing List Etiquette

2007-09-18 Thread root
Gaby, I have no objection to your participation in this mailing list but... > Then [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the answer :-) It is inappropriate behavior to advertise or advocate your project on this mailing list. You have private email as well as your own project mailing list. Please do not do this a

Re: [Axiom-developer] Mailing List Etiquette

2007-09-17 Thread Alfredo Portes
On 9/17/07, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No ... I'm looking at human-readable e-mail. Why would I track commits? > I'm not a developer, just a user/tester. Point taken, sorry about that :-(. I just wanted to point out that the work is in the commits, even when u don't see n

Re: [Axiom-developer] Mailing List Etiquette

2007-09-17 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
"M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | No ... I'm looking at human-readable e-mail. Then [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the answer :-) -- Gaby ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-developer@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: [Axiom-developer] Mailing List Etiquette

2007-09-17 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
Alfredo Portes wrote: >> Now that I think of it, I'm on the FriCAS and OpenAxiom >> lists and I haven't seen much activity. > > Are you looking at the commits in both projects? > No ... I'm looking at human-readable e-mail. Why would I track commits? I'm not a developer, just a user/tester. ___

Re: [Axiom-developer] Mailing List Etiquette

2007-09-17 Thread Alfredo Portes
> Now that I think of it, I'm on the FriCAS and OpenAxiom > lists and I haven't seen much activity. Are you looking at the commits in both projects? ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-developer@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/ax

Re: [Axiom-developer] Mailing List Etiquette

2007-09-17 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
"M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] | And I hardly think that Gentoo Linux on an Athlon64 X2 is a "less common | architecture". Now that I think of it, I'm on the FriCAS and OpenAxiom | lists and I haven't seen much activity. There is quite na bit of activity on [EMAIL PRO

Re: [Axiom-developer] Mailing List Etiquette

2007-09-17 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
C Y wrote: > --- Ralf Hemmecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On 09/07/2007 01:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> Bill, >>> For building Axiom on less common architectures I strongly recommend the FriCAS or OpenAxiom forks of the Axiom project. >>> I strongly object to your suggestion

Re: [Axiom-developer] Mailing List Etiquette

2007-09-17 Thread C Y
--- Ralf Hemmecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 09/07/2007 01:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Bill, > > > >> For building Axiom on less common architectures I strongly > >> recommend the FriCAS or OpenAxiom forks of the Axiom project. > > > > I strongly object to your suggestion that some

Re: [Axiom-developer] Mailing List Etiquette

2007-09-17 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
On 09/07/2007 01:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill, For building Axiom on less common architectures I strongly recommend the FriCAS or OpenAxiom forks of the Axiom project. I strongly object to your suggestion that someone who has requested information, help, or porting assistance on this

[Axiom-developer] Mailing List Etiquette

2007-09-06 Thread daly
Bill, > For building Axiom on less common architectures I strongly recommend > the FriCAS or OpenAxiom forks of the Axiom project. I strongly object to your suggestion that someone who has requested information, help, or porting assistance on this mailing list should go to another project. Pleas