RE: [Axiom-developer] axiom, browsers, and crystal

2005-06-21 Thread Page, Bill
On Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:17 AM Tim Daly wrote: > i am trying to avoid 1.2 million lines of javascript with browser > dependent ifdefs. we already have that problem with C. I agree. For desktop use we can easily standardize on one browser. I recommend Mozilla's FireFox. Except for jsMath whic

[Axiom-developer] axiom, browsers, and crystal

2005-06-20 Thread daly
i'm currently working on making the ISSAC Proceeding CD so i can't check out your references at the moment but i will as soon as i can. i did want to respond to your comment that you didn't think discussion was useful and that we need running code i think the focus on running code is great a

[Axiom-developer] axiom, browsers, and crystal

2005-06-20 Thread daly
we're debating, not disagreeing. although you're clearly wrong :-) i agree standards are a *good thing*(TM) but standards come after practice, not before. when they come before practice they are generally large, expensive, and overbuilt (e.g. XML) i agree that browsers are a good thing. they are

Re: [Axiom-developer] axiom, browsers, and crystal

2005-06-20 Thread Bob McElrath
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > * the DOM model is not really math-aware It doesn't have to be. All it needs to have is nodes that contain expressions, figures, or input. It is totally appropriate to encapsulate these. The DOM is for the presentation end, not calculation. > * th

[Axiom-developer] axiom, browsers, and crystal

2005-06-20 Thread daly
taking this discussion away from the short term summer of code so we can think about the bigger issues. in the long term (the 30 year horizon) it seems clear that some sort of browser-like capabilities are assumed. the limitations we have now seems to be things like: * the syntax of the web