Re: [Axiom-developer] operations working in general, but not in special cases -- help needed

2006-04-06 Thread William Sit
Dear Martin: Martin Rubey wrote: > William Sit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I assume you want MatroidCat to be the category of all matroids, > > No, at least not originally. I wanted MatroidCat be the "category" (in the > sense of axiom/aldor) of those domains, which represent matroids. I.e.,

Re: [Axiom-developer] operations working in general, but not in special cases -- help needed

2006-04-05 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
Dear William, I like most of what you have written, but I must oppose against a few things. Example 1, Matroids A "matroid" is a mathematical structure with one very, very important operation, namely "dualizing" which transforms a given matroid into another. Thus, one is tempted to have a ca

Re: [Aldor-l] Re: [Axiom-developer] operations working in general, but not in special cases -- help needed

2006-04-05 Thread Christian Aistleitner
Hi Bertfried, Category Matroid expoerts dual then Category GraphMatroid inherits Matroid =>modifies dual -> dual= if has planar then dual else error exports new functionality thereby, you would demolish the semantics of the dual of Matroid. I would strongly discourage from using su

Re: [Axiom-developer] operations working in general, but not in special cases -- help needed

2006-04-05 Thread Martin Rubey
Dear William, * thanks a lot for your answer. I think that you clarified the issue quite a bit, but I still have to think about it. A short reply... William Sit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Example 1, Matroids > > > > A "matroid" is a mathematical structure with one very, very important > >

Re: [Axiom-developer] operations working in general, but not in special cases -- help needed

2006-04-04 Thread William Sit
Dear Martin: Martin Rubey wrote: > The general case > > We have a category A with an operation op: % -> %. However, there are natural > subdomains of domains of A, which are no longer closed under op. > > Can you propose a "natural" hierarchy of categories for this situation? Since > this occu

Re: [Axiom-developer] operations working in general, but not in special cases -- help needed

2006-04-04 Thread Bertfried Fauser
On 4 Apr 2006, Martin Rubey wrote: Hi Martin, a quite interesting question... > The general case > > We have a category A with an operation op: % -> %. However, there are natural > subdomains of domains of A, which are no longer closed under op. > > Can you propose a "natural" hierarchy of categ

[Axiom-developer] operations working in general, but not in special cases -- help needed

2006-04-04 Thread Martin Rubey
Dear all, I will first describe my problem with two examples occurring in practice, and finally try to give a more abstract description. The question is, how to structure categories in these cases. Example 1, Matroids A "matroid" is a mathematical structure with one very, very important operatio