Re: [Axiom-developer] axiom opportunity

2006-05-31 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
Axiom is "easily installable" on Gentoo Linux. It's a standard (testing level) package in the Gentoo Portage repository. I'm pretty sure it can be built from source on all major Linux systems. :) David MENTRE wrote: > Hello, > > 25 Apr 2006 21:40:01 +0200, Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >

Re: [Axiom-developer] axiom opportunity

2006-04-29 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
"Bill Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | On April 26, 2006 2:50 PM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: | > | > Tim Daly (root) writes: | > | > | All of that effort is due to Camm. Unfortunately his tarball of | > | patches are all undocumented so I have no idea why those changes | > | are necessary. I'm r

RE: [Axiom-developer] axiom opportunity

2006-04-29 Thread Bill Page
On April 26, 2006 2:50 PM Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > > Tim Daly (root) writes: > > | All of that effort is due to Camm. Unfortunately his tarball of > | patches are all undocumented so I have no idea why those changes > | are necessary. I'm reluctant to make changes without understanding. > | >

Re: [Axiom-developer] axiom opportunity

2006-04-26 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
"Bill Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] | > BTW, I sent an email to axiom-math yesterday, it is still | > awaiting moderator review I believe :-) | > | | None of the Axiom mailing lists are moderated but they do | require member registration. Without the registration | requirement these li

RE: [Axiom-developer] axiom opportunity

2006-04-26 Thread Bill Page
Gaby, On April 26, 2006 2:50 PM you wrote: > | > > | > Do you have link to those patches? > | All Debian patches are available with the official Debian sources. For Axiom see: http://packages.debian.org/stable/math/axiom-source That is probably were Tim got his copy? > | wget daly.axiom-deve

Re: [Axiom-developer] axiom opportunity

2006-04-26 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > | All of that effort is due to Camm. Unfortunately his tarball of | > | patches are all undocumented so I have no idea why those changes | > | are necessary. I'm reluctant to make changes without understanding. | > | > Do you have link to those patches? | |

Re: [Axiom-developer] axiom opportunity

2006-04-26 Thread root
> | All of that effort is due to Camm. Unfortunately his tarball of > | patches are all undocumented so I have no idea why those changes > | are necessary. I'm reluctant to make changes without understanding. > > Do you have link to those patches? wget daly.axiom-developer.org/axiom_20050901-6.d

Re: [Axiom-developer] axiom opportunity

2006-04-26 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | >> But I would | >> like Axiom to be better than that; that is the reason why I talked to | >> Benjamin Kosnik about distribution when we met two-three weeks ago. See the | >> "cross compilation issue" in another thread. | > | > RedHat *requires* cross-compil

Re: [Axiom-developer] axiom opportunity

2006-04-26 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
"David MENTRE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Gaby, | | 26 Apr 2006 18:06:33 +0200, Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: | > Because I don't want to package it just for SuSE -- I might switch to or | > acquire a new Unix variant in the future. Furthermore, I consider | > that approach a rathole[

RE: [Axiom-developer] axiom opportunity

2006-04-26 Thread Bill Page
On April 26, 2006 12:10 PM Frederic Lehobey wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 05:48:00PM +0200, David MENTRE wrote: > > 25 Apr 2006 21:40:01 +0200, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > > > We should aim at getting Axiom 'easily' installable on > > > all major linux systems -- not just Debian. > > > [ I'm n

Re: [Axiom-developer] axiom opportunity

2006-04-26 Thread root
>> But I would >> like Axiom to be better than that; that is the reason why I talked to >> Benjamin Kosnik about distribution when we met two-three weeks ago. See the >> "cross compilation issue" in another thread. > > RedHat *requires* cross-compilation capabilities. I'm not sure Axiom > is abl

Re: [Axiom-developer] axiom opportunity

2006-04-26 Thread root
Axiom can be installed at any location (defaults to /usr/local) by adding an option on the command line (see Makefile.dvi) make INSTALL=/yourabsolutepath In general, Axiom is designed to be built from source. I provide binaries for the systems I can access but they are not guaranteed to run. t

Re: [Axiom-developer] axiom opportunity

2006-04-26 Thread David MENTRE
Gaby, 26 Apr 2006 18:06:33 +0200, Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Because I don't want to package it just for SuSE -- I might switch to or > acquire a new Unix variant in the future. Furthermore, I consider > that approach a rathole[1]: which version of SuSE? I certanly don't have > a st

Re: [Axiom-developer] axiom opportunity

2006-04-26 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Axiom should build on any linux system without error. | If you know of a system where you set the AXIOM shell variable | properly and the build fails please | (a) post a console log | (b) try to figure out what failed and generate a patch. | | As far as I'm

Re: [Axiom-developer] axiom opportunity

2006-04-26 Thread root
Axiom should build on any linux system without error. If you know of a system where you set the AXIOM shell variable properly and the build fails please (a) post a console log (b) try to figure out what failed and generate a patch. As far as I'm aware Axiom should build on SUSE. t

Re: [Axiom-developer] axiom opportunity

2006-04-26 Thread Frederic Lehobey
Hi, On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 05:48:00PM +0200, David MENTRE wrote: > 25 Apr 2006 21:40:01 +0200, Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > We should aim at getting Axiom 'easily' installable on all major linux > > systems -- not just Debian. > > [ I'm not saying that because I'm a SuSE Linux user :

Re: [Axiom-developer] axiom opportunity

2006-04-26 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
"David MENTRE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Hello, | | 25 Apr 2006 21:40:01 +0200, Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: | > We should aim at getting Axiom 'easily' installable on all major linux | > systems -- not just Debian. | > [ I'm not saying that because I'm a SuSE Linux user :-) ] | | S

Re: [Axiom-developer] axiom opportunity

2006-04-26 Thread David MENTRE
Hello, 25 Apr 2006 21:40:01 +0200, Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > We should aim at getting Axiom 'easily' installable on all major linux > systems -- not just Debian. > [ I'm not saying that because I'm a SuSE Linux user :-) ] So why don't you package Axiom for SuSE ? Best wishes, d.

Re: [Axiom-developer] axiom opportunity

2006-04-25 Thread Bob McElrath
Page, Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Bob, > > On Tuesday, April 25, 2006 1:45 PM you wrote: > > > > Bill Page wrote: > > > Could you point me to some examples of these benchmarks? > > > Identical pages rendered as MathML and jsMath? Are there > > > some cases that are especially bad? Worse case

Re: [Axiom-developer] axiom opportunity

2006-04-25 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] | I think we need to start positioning ourselves to be the computer | algebra system for these linux systems. We should aim at getting Axiom 'easily' installable on all major linux systems -- not just Debian. [ I'm not saying that because I'm a SuSE Linux

RE: [Axiom-developer] axiom opportunity

2006-04-25 Thread Page, Bill
Bob, On Tuesday, April 25, 2006 1:45 PM you wrote: > > Bill Page wrote: > > Could you point me to some examples of these benchmarks? > > Identical pages rendered as MathML and jsMath? Are there > > some cases that are especially bad? Worse case? > > I've never written down any numbers because j

Re: [Axiom-developer] axiom opportunity

2006-04-25 Thread Bob McElrath
Page, Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Could you point me to some examples of these benchmarks? > Identical pages rendered as MathML and jsMath? Are there > some cases that are especially bad? Worse case? I've never written down any numbers because jsMath pages take many seconds, while MathML is al

RE: [Axiom-developer] axiom opportunity

2006-04-25 Thread Page, Bill
On Tuesday, April 25, 2006 12:50 PM Bob McElrath wrote: > ... > Bill Page wrote: > > I think jsMath as an alternative to MathML has continued to > > evolve and mature very rapidly: > > > > http://www.math.union.edu/~dpvc/jsMath/changes.html > > > > It uses just a subset of LaTeX embedded in HTML

Re: [Axiom-developer] axiom opportunity

2006-04-25 Thread Bob McElrath
Page, Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Tuesday, April 25, 2006 8:32 AM David MENTRE wrote: > > [Open Office ...] > > On that side, a reasonable approach would be to add a new Axiom > > output format suitable for computer parsing (for example as sexp). > > One could use a standardized format, like

RE: [Axiom-developer] axiom opportunity

2006-04-25 Thread Page, Bill
On Tuesday, April 25, 2006 8:32 AM David MENTRE wrote: > [Open Office ...] > On that side, a reasonable approach would be to add a new Axiom > output format suitable for computer parsing (for example as sexp). > One could use a standardized format, like MathML, but I am afraid > of its complexity (

Re: [Axiom-developer] axiom opportunity

2006-04-25 Thread C Y
--- Antoine Hersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think we need to start positioning ourselves to be the computer > > algebra system for these linux systems. Which implies we spend > > some time trying to get axiom working in conjunction with things > > like Open Office. Tim, do you mean have A

Re: [Axiom-developer] axiom opportunity

2006-04-25 Thread Martin Rubey
I think tex4ht can also do openoffice: http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/TeX4ht/mn3.html#QQ1-3-10 Martin ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-developer@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer

Re: [Axiom-developer] axiom opportunity

2006-04-25 Thread David MENTRE
Hello, 2006/4/25, Antoine Hersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Trying to work with open office as a front-end will certainly > > force axiom's user interface to mature rapidly. > > There will be the problem of Latex, that might be a lot of works to male OO > parse Latex. On that side, a reasonable a

Re: [Axiom-developer] axiom opportunity

2006-04-25 Thread Antoine Hersen
Axiom has been shown to run on Yellow Dog, which is a chineselanguage version of linux. Yellow Dog is PPC version of RedHat :http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/products/ydl/ Red Flag is what we perceived as the Chinese Linux : http://www.redflag-linux.com/eindex.html I think we need to start positio