Re: [Ayatana] The old installer getting stuck at 82% issue :-)

2009-07-08 Thread Steve Dodier
Hello, The 82% step is the one when the installer looks for a mirror, and it's the first step to download the user's locale in order to have a fully translated Ubuntu. The locale download part has a Cancel button in case it's too long, but the 82% one doesn't. I reported this to the developers of

Re: [Ayatana] Pleasant Updates for karmic - Papercut

2009-07-08 Thread mac_v
Alex Launi wrote: Except that this totally fails to solve the problem of people not installing updates. Yes, for ScottK, and most of us this would be ideal, we get off on updates. My family, however, would (just like with the notification icon, as this is essentially the exact same thing)

Re: [Ayatana] Pleasant Updates for karmic - Papercut

2009-07-08 Thread Alex Launi
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.comwrote: That's not a problem that's solvable in software. Teaching the user to care is something no update system will manage. Scott K No, but making it so they update without caring about updates *is* solvable. --

[Ayatana] Recent discussions about updates : proposal to retarget the discussion

2009-07-08 Thread Steve Dodier
Hello Ayatana, There have been, lately, a lot of discussions about the Update Manager. They have lasted for a good while, there have been over 100 emails, and no decision has been made so far. More worrying, I can't clearly see a beginning of consensus on the ideas proposed in the different