Re: [Ayatana] Inconsistencies from LHS buttons

2010-05-25 Thread Alex Lourie
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Tyler Brainerd wrote: > Just cause mac does it, doesn't mean its the best. Mac doesn't have the > basic idea of window management in the upper left and notifications in the > upper right, we do. > > Indeed so. > -- > Alex Lourie _

Re: [Ayatana] Inconsistencies from LHS buttons

2010-05-25 Thread Tyler Brainerd
Just cause mac does it, doesn't mean its the best. Mac doesn't have the basic idea of window management in the upper left and notifications in the upper right, we do. On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Alex Lourie wrote: > > > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Frederik Nnaji > wrote: > >> On Mon,

Re: [Ayatana] Inconsistencies from LHS buttons

2010-05-25 Thread Alex Lourie
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Frederik Nnaji wrote: > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 21:48, Mark Curtis wrote: > >> >> Tabbed Applications: >> Firefox, gedit, Nautilus, etc. All these applications have their close >> buttons on the right hand side of their respective tab. >> >> Appearance Preference

Re: [Ayatana] Inconsistencies from LHS buttons

2010-05-25 Thread Frederik Nnaji
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 21:48, Mark Curtis wrote: > This is not complaining about their position and demanding they be put on > the right. I know such a message would be pointless. I however notice a few > inconsistencies brought about by their placement. > > Indicator Session: > I brought this

Re: [Ayatana] Encrypted DVD issues

2010-05-25 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Shane Fagan wrote on 25/05/10 19:02: > > On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 18:30 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: >... >> Perhaps you'd like to start a wiki page about this (linked from >> ), with a storyboard >>

Re: [Ayatana] Papercut or not? Bug #495403 in One Hundr ed Paper Cuts: “Do not raise windows or dialog s without user input”

2010-05-25 Thread Greg K Nicholson
On 25 May 2010 12:29, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > Focus stealing *is* less of a problem than making all other window > openings unpredictable. Mark, I've proposed a solution (from a user experience point of view) that prevents focus-stealing while also keeping window-opening predictable: https://

Re: [Ayatana] Encrypted DVD issues

2010-05-25 Thread Martin Owens
The mp3 and DeCSS problems are different... On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 00:00 +0200, Conscious User wrote: > > The problem with DVDs compared to MP3s is that they require paying for > > DVD playback and for MP3s you get 100 free licences so unless you are > > going for a huge deployment your not braking

Re: [Ayatana] Encrypted DVD issues

2010-05-25 Thread Shane Fagan
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 00:00 +0200, Conscious User wrote: > > The problem with DVDs compared to MP3s is that they require paying for > > DVD playback and for MP3s you get 100 free licences so unless you are > > going for a huge deployment your not braking any laws. > > So DVD playback is pay per li

Re: [Ayatana] Fw: Re: Rethink the noninteractive Live CD default boot?

2010-05-25 Thread Luke Morton
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 13:07 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > On 25/05/10 10:52, C. Cooke wrote: > > Make cd testing automatic unless an advanced parameter is used and > > provide an option to cancel the media check. > > Our goal is a fast, clean install. The media check takes a relatively > long

Re: [Ayatana] Encrypted DVD issues

2010-05-25 Thread Conscious User
> The problem with DVDs compared to MP3s is that they require paying for > DVD playback and for MP3s you get 100 free licences so unless you are > going for a huge deployment your not braking any laws. > So DVD playback is pay per licence but MP3 is 100 free so its fine in > most cases. I was a

Re: [Ayatana] Encrypted DVD issues

2010-05-25 Thread Shane Fagan
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 23:40 +0200, Conscious User wrote: > Le mardi 25 mai 2010 à 18:30 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas a écrit : > > Absolutely, this is something we can and should fix in Maverick. We plan > > to be selling one or two bits of commercial software in 10.10, and for > > well-known legal r

Re: [Ayatana] Encrypted DVD issues

2010-05-25 Thread Conscious User
Le mardi 25 mai 2010 à 18:30 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas a écrit : > Absolutely, this is something we can and should fix in Maverick. We plan > to be selling one or two bits of commercial software in 10.10, and for > well-known legal reasons, DVD playback is likely to be one of those. But what exa

Re: [Ayatana] Encrypted DVD issues

2010-05-25 Thread Shane Fagan
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 17:08 -0400, Martin Owens wrote: > On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 18:30 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > > Absolutely, this is something we can and should fix in Maverick. We > > plan > > to be selling one or two bits of commercial software in 10.10, and for > > well-known legal rea

Re: [Ayatana] Encrypted DVD issues

2010-05-25 Thread Martin Owens
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 18:30 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > Absolutely, this is something we can and should fix in Maverick. We > plan > to be selling one or two bits of commercial software in 10.10, and for > well-known legal reasons, DVD playback is likely to be one of those. Is it not poss

Re: [Ayatana] Encrypted DVD issues

2010-05-25 Thread Tyler Brainerd
When will there be a definite announcement about software for sale for 10.10? On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Shane Fagan wrote on 25/05/10 15:28: > >... > > I noticed that when I double click a DVD movie on the de

Re: [Ayatana] Encrypted DVD issues

2010-05-25 Thread Shane Fagan
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 18:30 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Shane Fagan wrote on 25/05/10 15:28: > >... > > I noticed that when I double click a DVD movie on the desktop it opens > > the folder in nautilus. Can we open it in totem instead? It

Re: [Ayatana] Papercut or not? Bug #495403 in On e Hundred Paper Cuts: “Do not raise windows o r dialogs without user input”

2010-05-25 Thread Sense Hofstede
On 25 May 2010 13:29, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > On 24/05/10 21:59, Tyler Brainerd wrote: >> apparently its denying its a problem. > > If someone takes trouble to participate in a thread, and outlines both > sides of an issue but ultimately supports an approach different to your > preference, that

Re: [Ayatana] Encrypted DVD issues

2010-05-25 Thread Shane Fagan
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 18:30 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Shane Fagan wrote on 25/05/10 15:28: > >... > > I noticed that when I double click a DVD movie on the desktop it opens > > the folder in nautilus. Can we open it in totem instead? It

Re: [Ayatana] Encrypted DVD issues

2010-05-25 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Shane Fagan wrote on 25/05/10 15:28: >... > I noticed that when I double click a DVD movie on the desktop it opens > the folder in nautilus. Can we open it in totem instead? It seems like > slightly bad behaviour to add an extra click there. > > Also

[Ayatana] Encrypted DVD issues

2010-05-25 Thread Shane Fagan
Hey all, I noticed that when I double click a DVD movie on the desktop it opens the folder in nautilus. Can we open it in totem instead? It seems like slightly bad behaviour to add an extra click there. Also can we improve the installing of DVD playback? At the moment the user has to find and run

Re: [Ayatana] Sudoku: Let's try a heuristic usability evaluation

2010-05-25 Thread Vishnoo
On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 11:51 +0200, Jan-Christoph Borchardt wrote: > On 10 May 2010 00:13, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > > Basically the idea is to put yourself in the mindset of someone using > > the system, and ask yourself questions. Been a while since I played so much sudoku. ;p A few inconsis

Re: [Ayatana] Notifications Reversion

2010-05-25 Thread Anzan Hoshin Roshi
On 25 May 2010 09:09, Lance wrote: > Please post a link to your forum thread and I'll see if I can help > troubleshoot this. > Thanks, Lance. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9357000#post9357000 > > --- On *Tue, 5/25/10, Anzan Hoshin Roshi *wrote: > > > From: Anzan Hoshin Roshi > Subj

Re: [Ayatana] Notifications Reversion

2010-05-25 Thread Lance
Please post a link to your forum thread and I'll see if I can help troubleshoot this. --- On Tue, 5/25/10, Anzan Hoshin Roshi wrote: From: Anzan Hoshin Roshi Subject: [Ayatana] Notifications Reversion To: "ayatana" Date: Tuesday, May 25, 2010, 6:46 AM

Re: [Ayatana] Fw: Re: Rethink the noninteractive Live CD default boot?

2010-05-25 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 25/05/10 10:52, C. Cooke wrote: > Make cd testing automatic unless an advanced parameter is used and > provide an option to cancel the media check. Our goal is a fast, clean install. The media check takes a relatively long time, so won't be the default. Mark signature.asc Description: OpenP

[Ayatana] Notifications Reversion

2010-05-25 Thread Anzan Hoshin Roshi
*Notifications Reversion* -- I've just dist upgraded my main production box to10.04. All is well except the notifications have reverted to the stylr from 8.04 or so. Instead of appearing top left and being without a border and so on they are appearing bottom right with

Re: [Ayatana] Papercut or not? Bug #495403 in One Hundr ed Paper Cuts: “Do not raise windows or dialogs witho ut user input”

2010-05-25 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 24/05/10 21:59, Tyler Brainerd wrote: > apparently its denying its a problem. If someone takes trouble to participate in a thread, and outlines both sides of an issue but ultimately supports an approach different to your preference, that is *not* denying the existence of a problem. It's acknowl

Re: [Ayatana] Fw: Re: Rethink the noninteractive Live CD default boot?

2010-05-25 Thread C. Cooke
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 04:50:52PM -0400, Alex Schoof wrote: >I don't think anyone would ever argue that we shouldn't be intergrity >checking boot media (or at least presenting the option); while I never >considered it a pain point, I guess I could see a new user getting >confused a