Re: [Ayatana] Dash search vs Alt+F2 in 11.10

2011-09-28 Thread Stefanos A.
2011/9/28 Evan Huus > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Stefanos A. wrote: > > And a different viewpoint: Win7 doesn't distinguish between 'execute > > command', 'launch application', 'search applications' and 'search files' > in > > its Dash equivalent. Instead, it works through the list in that

Re: [Ayatana] super+n+up/down/home to rearrange launcher icons.

2011-09-28 Thread Stefanos A.
2011/9/28 Jo-Erlend Schinstad > Den 27. sep. 2011 16:39, skrev David: > > I like the idea, but wouldn't it mean coding a delay before Unity actually >> launches the program? Otherwise, how will it know whether you want to >> launch or just move the icon? >> > > No, it wouldn't, because you woul

Re: [Ayatana] super+n+up/down/home to rearrange launcher icons.

2011-09-28 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
Den 28. sep. 2011 11:24, skrev Stefanos A.: I just tried and the Launcher currently activates on key press, not release. Super+2 activates without releasing the key. Yes, and that would have to be changed. Change the key press to key release would indeed introduce an unacceptable delay. I

Re: [Ayatana] Dash search vs Alt+F2 in 11.10

2011-09-28 Thread Ian Santopietro
But Alt-F1 triggers keyboard navigation of the launcher, not the dash. You can switch directlyfrom there to either dash or the Run dialog without any other action. To open the dash, briefly press and release Super, which is a very different shortcut from Alt-F2, and not likely to be confused. It is

Re: [Ayatana] Dash search vs Alt+F2 in 11.10

2011-09-28 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
Den 28. sep. 2011 11:51, skrev Ian Santopietro: But Alt-F1 triggers keyboard navigation of the launcher, not the dash. You can switch directlyfrom there to either dash or the Run dialog without any other action. To open the dash, briefly press and release Super, which is a very different shor

Re: [Ayatana] Dash search vs Alt+F2 in 11.10

2011-09-28 Thread Eylem Koca
It may sound off-topic, but it's related I think: Up until Beta 2 was released, I had this "bug" (I don't know if it's fixed, as I had to do a clean install on my laptop and didn't have time to install Beta 2 yet). When I installed Gnome-Shell (yes, blasphemer) Alt-F2 did NOT work there at all. So

Re: [Ayatana] Dash search vs Alt+F2 in 11.10

2011-09-28 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
Den 28. sep. 2011 13:48, skrev Eylem Koca: It may sound off-topic, but it's related I think: Up until Beta 2 was released, I had this "bug" (I don't know if it's fixed, as I had to do a clean install on my laptop and didn't have time to install Beta 2 yet). When I installed Gnome-Shell (yes, bl

Re: [Ayatana] super+n+up/down/home to rearrange launcher icons.

2011-09-28 Thread Stefanos A.
2011/9/28 Jo-Erlend Schinstad > Den 28. sep. 2011 11:24, skrev Stefanos A.: > > Change the key press to key release would indeed introduce an unacceptable >> delay. I have already filed bugs on Unity for things that are activated on >> release rather than press, like the BFB (now Dash button - i

Re: [Ayatana] Dash search vs Alt+F2 in 11.10

2011-09-28 Thread Stefanos A.
2011/9/28 Ian Santopietro > But Alt-F1 triggers keyboard navigation of the launcher, not the dash. You > can switch directlyfrom there to either dash or the Run dialog without any > other action. To open the dash, briefly press and release Super, which is a > very different shortcut from Alt-F2,

Re: [Ayatana] Dash search vs Alt+F2 in 11.10

2011-09-28 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On 28 September 2011 07:48, Eylem Koca wrote: > It may sound off-topic, but it's related I think: Up until Beta 2 was > released, I had this "bug" (I don't know if it's fixed, as I had to do >  a clean install on my laptop and didn't have time to install Beta 2 > yet). When I installed Gnome-Shell

Re: [Ayatana] Dash search vs Alt+F2 in 11.10

2011-09-28 Thread Ian Santopietro
It is simple, but it isn't intuitive. Pressing enter (in combination with any other key) indicates that you want to do an action with the item selected on the screen. We don't want the dash to search commands, as this is not end-user friendly. A new user should never have to know what a command is

Re: [Ayatana] Dash search vs Alt+F2 in 11.10

2011-09-28 Thread Stefanos A.
2011/9/28 Ian Santopietro > It is simple, but it isn't intuitive. > > Pressing enter (in combination with any other key) indicates that you want > to do an action with the item selected on the screen. We don't want the dash > to search commands, as this is not end-user friendly. A new user should

Re: [Ayatana] Dash search vs Alt+F2 in 11.10

2011-09-28 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
Den 28. sep. 2011 20:54, skrev Stefanos A.: As for it being unlikely, I'd argue that it isn't. There are many times where I hit Super only to decide I'd rather enter a command rather than launch an application. Right now it's impossible to mode-switch easily, because you have to close and reope

Re: [Ayatana] Dash search vs Alt+F2 in 11.10

2011-09-28 Thread Juan Montoya
Good point, Ian. I am convinced now that the dash must not absorb the functionality of the run dialog. The dash should remain user-friendly, especially for new users. However, the behaviour I wanted would still be available through lenses? I don't know much about Unity lenses, and at first I thou

Re: [Ayatana] Dash search vs Alt+F2 in 11.10

2011-09-28 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On 28 September 2011 15:52, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > No, that is not true. If you have the Dash open, then you can press alt+f2 > to switch to the normal alt+f2 view. Contrary, if you've pressed alt+f2, but > should've pressed super, you can just press tab. This makes sense. It should > be eas

Re: [Ayatana] New proposal for Unity: Launcher and left of top panel (w/ mockups)

2011-09-28 Thread matt
The idea of moving the BFB to the bottom left has been raised a few times and it has certain advantages: 1. It's where users migrating from windows will expect it to be 2. As Stefanos said, it allows us to use screen corners for BFB, window controls and panel menus. However, a major advantage of