[Ayatana] Unity, menus and large screens

G'day Guys, I decided to join the Ayatana mailing list so I could help provide feedback or ideas regarding Unity. Firstly I should say that while I was initially surprised (possibly shocked) by the changes, I quickly grew to enjoy them. However, unfortunately there is one issue, which may be spe

Re: [Ayatana] Windows 8 and OS X Lion observations

G'day, On 9 June 2011 06:59, GonzO wrote: > > > Some information is important and should be on the screen at all times. > > Sometimes this is simply because of convenience - like knowing what > time it is just by looking at the screen. > > Sometimes this is to avoid annoyance. It is nice to ha

Re: [Ayatana] Windows 8 and OS X Lion observations

On 9 June 2011 18:22, Adrian Maier wrote: > I fully agree with GonzO . > > Basically, Unity attempts to introduce eye candy at the expense of > cutting down useful features . > > > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 01:13, James Jenner > wrote: > > > > There is a va

Re: [Ayatana] Windows 8 and OS X Lion observations

On 9 June 2011 20:06, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > On 06/09/2011 11:21 AM, James Jenner wrote: > >> Usability is about making the interface easy to work overall, not for >> specific instances. >> > > There are already somewhat varying definitions out there, no need

Re: [Ayatana] Windows 8 and OS X Lion observations

> > There is no need to do anything special to support specific instances > as long as the system is flexible enough to allow the user to adjust it > to their needs. > > Personally I like flexibility, I'm just aware that such flexibility may have a cost. Hopefully there is no or limited cost and it

Re: [Ayatana] A rather radical Unity design idea with mockups

Hi Eylem, >From past discussions I've seen on here I have received the impression that the reasoning for the focus on the top left corner is based on the common left to right, top to bottom reading of most western countries. This is the explanation I saw in regards to moving the window controls fr

Re: [Ayatana] Unity2D -- wow! (And hidden window buttons)

erienced with windows on a daily basis but not 'power users', power users of windows. This is of course presuming that a lot of take-up of ubuntu is either people with low end hardware and/or not a lot of money or are from a windows background. James Jenner. ___

Re: [Ayatana] Unity2D -- wow! (And hidden window buttons)

On 27 August 2011 13:57, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > Den 27. aug. 2011 05:02, skrev James Jenner: > > >> I agree with you in regards to people learning the behaviour of the >> application, people are not stupid and they will learn how to do certain >> activities. Thi

Re: [Ayatana] Unity2D -- wow! (And hidden window buttons)

n optimize personal > efficiency and comfort. We once learned how to shave, right? > It wasn't strictly necessary. You would've figured it out by trial > and error, but it didn't take long to show it once and it probably > saved you from a few cuts and itches. And since then, I'm sure > you've shaved a couple of times without feeling any need of a > reminder how to do it. > > And shaving is far less common than interacting with a window. > I expect to receive a few points for that analogy :) > lol, interesting analogy, two points for that! :) Cheers, James Jenner ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

Re: [Ayatana] Make Unity more web friendly.

lockdown so that what is available is controlled, even in a home environment this would apply for children. +1 from me. James Jenner On 30 August 2011 17:05, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > I filed a bug with an idea how to make Unity more web friendly: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/**unity-shel

Re: [Ayatana] Workspace switcher needs redesign

Speaking personally, I would like this feature. Though I'm not sure how widely it would be used. In my case I often open up software on different workspaces and switch between them to look at different things. I'll often have a VM open on one, a game on another, a web browser with email and possib

Re: [Ayatana] Dash search vs Alt+F2 in 11.10

On 27 September 2011 02:19, Jo-Erlend Schinstad < joerlend.schins...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have not proposed anything like that. That was someone else, and I > completely disagree with it. I don't want commands in the dash at all. They > do not belong there. I like it just the way it is, but havin

Re: [Ayatana] Dash search vs Alt+F2 in 11.10

> Well, this is mostly the way that Alt+F2 has worked for at least ten > years, so there's really nothing new there. We used to have some options in > the dialog, though, like run in terminal, run with file and select > applications. None of those make sense to me. If I want to run something in >

Re: [Ayatana] Re-design applications to fit with the global menu

On 5 October 2011 02:13, Matteo Pagliazzi wrote: > I think that the blobal menu isn't really a problem for most of us for a > simply reason: most of the apps doesn't really use the menu as an important > part of the design but they preferr toolbars, button... > > Only a few, but important, apps s

Re: [Ayatana] Re-design applications to fit with the global menu

> That is a bug, not a design flaw. > > Once that bug is fixed, the global menu will work much better for Gimp than > in-window menus did. > Ahh thanks for the info, didn't realise it was considered a bug. ___ Mailing l

Re: [Ayatana] Overlay scrollbars

Regards, James Jenner +61 402 203 344 james.g.jen...@gmail.com On 8 October 2011 02:05, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > Den 07. okt. 2011 16:43, skrev gespert...@gmail.com: > >> With visible scrollbars you know where they are, you just move your >> pointer and use them. With

Re: [Ayatana] How to disable Music "Available for Purchase"

On 12 October 2011 00:44, Ian Santopietro wrote: > The thing is this isn't really a privacy issue. Sure, when you open > the music lens and search for a song, it looks for the song online. > But this isn't tied to the main "Dash" search (Home icon, or the one > that opens by default). So it won't

Re: [Ayatana] How to disable Music "Available for Purchase"

On 13 October 2011 00:40, Ian Santopietro wrote: > > I also don't see a problem with the internet being hit with this search, > > purely from a privacy point of view. I do however agree that the user > should > > be in control with all information sent over the internet. That's not a > > privacy

Re: [Ayatana] Ayatana dev list - attitude

On 16 October 2011 21:01, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > You get such data by collecting a number of different users and testing the > software on them in a controlled manner. A web poll is not useful because > people will be driven by preconceptions and emotion instead of actually > analysing what

Re: [Ayatana] reduce the font and ui size!

I've never had a problem with the font size with Ubuntu, or with Windows to be honest. I've assisted a lot of users with their desktops over the years and the only reason I've ever heard for adjusting the font is due to eyesight issues, which as has been mentioned previously is available via Univer

Re: [Ayatana] shortcut - open/focus last program that send a notification

On 1 November 2011 08:41, Thibaut Brandscheid wrote: > I just thought it would be uber-cool to have a shortcut to open/focus last > application that send an notification to the user (if useful). This would > increase use of indicators for power users without disturbing normal users. > Right now t

Re: [Ayatana] shortcut - open/focus last program that send a notification

On 1 November 2011 09:43, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > Den 31. okt. 2011 19:25, skrev James Jenner: > > >> I only say this because often I will see a notification from an >> application that is on a different workspace and the effort to open said >> application would be

Re: [Ayatana] shortcut - open/focus last program that send a notification

On 1 November 2011 12:44, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > Den 01. nov. 2011 02:22, skrev James Jenner: > > Optional means sometimes. Intermittent functionality means confusion. > Also, for this to be useful, the notifications would have to stay on screen > permanently. Otherwise, you

[Ayatana] buttons in file browser

Hi All, I just noticed last night that the tool bar for the file browser under unity (I presume this is nautilus) has gone for 11.10. Obviously this is intentional but does anyone know why? The only reason I ask is that when working with large file sets I often switch between icon or detail view,

Re: [Ayatana] buttons in file browser

On 2 November 2011 01:23, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > Den 01. nov. 2011 01:24, skrev James Jenner: > > Hi All, >> >> I just noticed last night that the tool bar for the file browser under >> unity (I presume this is nautilus) has gone for 11.10. Obviously this is >

Re: [Ayatana] buttons in file browser

On 2 November 2011 11:30, anthropornis wrote: > Nautilus Elementary had it right in this department; since it is no > longer being maintained, I hope Marlin will be an option soon, and will > retain all that was good about Nautilus Elementary, and maybe gain some > bulk-rename functionality from

Re: [Ayatana] buttons in file browser

On 2 November 2011 13:34, Chow Loong Jin wrote: > On 02/11/2011 11:14, anthropornis wrote: > > Or I could click one button one time. That is the essence of simplicity. > > You could say that for every commonly used feature there is. > > I don't frequently change views, for example, but I frequent

Re: [Ayatana] buttons in file browser

On 2 November 2011 16:49, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > Den 02. nov. 2011 06:24, skrev anthropornis: > > You have the right to choose exactly how Nautilus will look and feel. As I > said before, in another thread, you have 100% configurability if you really > want it. Some users now have to click t

Re: [Ayatana] buttons in file browser

On 2 November 2011 18:04, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > > I'm usually called Jo-Erlend, but I don't really care that much what you > call me, as long as you don't call me at home. :) > > lol, no worries, I'll make sure I don't do that :-) > > I were attending remotely, and there was quite a bit o

Re: [Ayatana] shortcut - open/focus last program that send a notification

On 2 November 2011 18:11, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > > That wouldn't be a bad idea if the goal was to somehow make the > notifications actionable. That's not the goal. This would still compel the > user to react. These notifications are not meant like that. They're meant > to keep you updated ab

Re: [Ayatana] Serious issues

On 3 November 2011 14:06, Elias K Gardner wrote: > When you have to interact close to the left edge of a window the launcher > can be accidentally activated blocking interaction on that part of the open > window. > > The launcher can be made not to popout when the cursor hits the screen > side by

Re: [Ayatana] What should Unity look like on Smartphones and Tablets?

On 8 November 2011 07:37, Ian Santopietro wrote: > At UDS-P, Mark announced his plans to have Ubuntu on Tablets, phones, > and TVs by 14.04 LTS. You can start too early! > > http://i.imgur.com/56vDn.jpg > > I'd like feedback from the Ayatana community on the design. Is there > anything that shoul

Re: [Ayatana] What should Unity look like on Smartphones and Tablets?

> > I haven't accounted for that in my concepts, but we could add a way to > easily create custom lenses that the user could add their own apps or > widgets to. > > I'm still not convinced that lenses are the way to go. Both iOS and Android support multiple screens with the swipe to left or right t

Re: [Ayatana] Unity Lens Mockup.

I don't like how the lens are looking for 11.10 in unity so I made come > mock ups. > > I think all the mockups give the impression that selection of the lens directly affects the search bar, while not making it apparent that the whole lens area is affected. Overall though I think I like the secon

[Ayatana] + + - suggestion for enhancement

Hi All, Just wondering how people would feel if the + + was modified so that the following behaviour would be followed: 1. On first select of + + , current behaviour is retained, ie align to left side of screen and resized as appropriate. 2. On second select of + + (within

[Ayatana] Problem with selection of window from different workspace

Hi all, I've searched launchpad.net and I cannot find this reported yet. But as I'm not familiar with launchpad I wanted to mention it here first and see if I'm just inept at how to search on launchpad.net. The problem is that sometimes when selection of a window from a different workspace occurs

Re: [Ayatana] Lots of mockups, but what is the problem you're trying to solve?

On 13 November 2011 03:14, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > As I see it, those 8 buttons on the dash should be replaced. With what? > The most used items from each section of the most used _private_ scopes. > That is to say, it's ok to display music I have on my disk, but not music > from music store

Re: [Ayatana] Lots of mockups, but what is the problem you're trying to solve?

On 14 November 2011 08:55, Chad M. Germann wrote: > The problem is were seeing lots of Pretty stuff but Core issues are not > being addressed > > Issue 1: To the end user the dash is first and foremost a programs menu > > I disagree with that, what do you base this on? I use the dash for two thin

Re: [Ayatana] Notifications in unity

On 18 November 2011 03:54, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > Den 17. nov. 2011 17:59, skrev staticd: > > Why? This is something people have complained about in Windows for many > years. After logging in; > > System: «Java must be upgraded» > User: «Oh, but I just wanted to read my mail. Can I please