Re: [Ayatana] Papercut or not? Bug #495403 in On e Hundred Paper Cuts: “Do not raise windows o r dialogs without user input”

2010-06-29 Thread Kristoffer Lundén
2010/6/29 Matthew Paul Thomas > > If I have chosen to actively use another application/window, the new > > application should never take the focus even if it takes it 24 hours > > to start. > >... > > Of course, but that's *still* assuming the question. How do you define > "chosen to actively use

Re: [Ayatana] Papercut or not? Bug #495403 in On e Hundred Paper Cuts: “Do not raise windows o r dialogs without user input”

2010-06-21 Thread Kristoffer Lundén
2010/6/21 Matthew Paul Thomas > >> So how do you define "started doing something else"? > > > > Something else is mouse and/or keyboard activity in an other > > application. > > So how do you define "activity"? > > If the mouse button is actually *down*, or a keyboard key is actually > *pressed*,

Re: [Ayatana] Papercut or not? Bug #495403 in On e Hundred Paper Cuts: “Do not raise windows o r dialogs without user input”

2010-05-28 Thread Kristoffer Lundén
2010/5/28 Greg K Nicholson > This is *exactly* what my proposal intends to achieve (assuming it can > actually be implemented). > > Ah, I read it quite differently, misunderstood the throwing focus stuff. Yes, sounds like something to try out, would also solve the situation when I'm watching some

Re: [Ayatana] Papercut or not? Bug #495403 in On e Hundred Paper Cuts: “Do not raise windows o r dialogs without user input”

2010-05-28 Thread Edgar D' Souza
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Sense Hofstede wrote: > Isn't this already solved? With autologin enabled you get a dialogue > from gnome-keyring that after having started e.g. Empathy for the > first time that asks for your password to unlock the keyring. I think > that it is already not possibl

Re: [Ayatana] Papercut or not? Bug #495403 in On e Hundred Paper Cuts: “Do not raise windows o r dialogs without user input”

2010-05-27 Thread Dylan McCall
I, err, have to jump in here and say Please, If you're going to do anything with when windows are raised, raise them more aggressively! Or fix how windows that aren't raised are handled; right now they are completely muted. One of favourite horrible things: choosing to show a window via an indicat

Re: [Ayatana] Papercut or not? Bug #495403 in On e Hundred Paper Cuts: “Do not raise windows o r dialogs without user input”

2010-05-27 Thread Kristoffer Lundén
Is it possible for the window manager (or some other mechanism that it can communicate with) to know if I am interacting with a window at the moment (defined as typing, clicking, moving etc within a certain time I guess, that would needed to be tested out)? If so, I would simply like for windows t

Re: [Ayatana] Papercut or not? Bug #495403 in On e Hundred Paper Cuts: “Do not raise windows o r dialogs without user input”

2010-05-25 Thread Sense Hofstede
On 25 May 2010 13:29, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > On 24/05/10 21:59, Tyler Brainerd wrote: >> apparently its denying its a problem. > > If someone takes trouble to participate in a thread, and outlines both > sides of an issue but ultimately supports an approach different to your > preference, that

Re: [Ayatana] Papercut or not? Bug #495403 in On e Hundred Paper Cuts: “Do not raise windows o r dialogs without user input”

2010-05-24 Thread Diego Moya
On 24 May 2010 21:34, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > It's definitely not a papercut :-) > > Personally, I think trying to prevent focus-stealing does more harm than > good. If you do that, you end up with a LOT of suboptimal situations > like windows opening in the background. So I'm +1 the current ban

Re: [Ayatana] Papercut or not? Bug #495403 in On e Hundred Paper Cuts: “Do not raise windows o r dialogs without user input”

2010-05-24 Thread Alex Schoof
Alright, well cross that one off the list. On May 24, 2010 4:59 PM, "Tyler Brainerd" wrote: apparently its denying its a problem. On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Alex Schoof wrote: > > What's the current... ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/

Re: [Ayatana] Papercut or not? Bug #495403 in On e Hundred Paper Cuts: “Do not raise windows o r dialogs without user input”

2010-05-24 Thread Tyler Brainerd
apparently its denying its a problem. On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Alex Schoof wrote: > What's the current band aid? > > On May 24, 2010 3:34 PM, "Mark Shuttleworth" wrote: > > On 24/05/10 16:57, Conscious User wrote: > > I think the ideal would be not to steal focus *if the use... > > It's

Re: [Ayatana] Papercut or not? Bug #495403 in On e Hundred Paper Cuts: “Do not raise windows o r dialogs without user input”

2010-05-24 Thread Alex Schoof
What's the current band aid? On May 24, 2010 3:34 PM, "Mark Shuttleworth" wrote: On 24/05/10 16:57, Conscious User wrote: > I think the ideal would be not to steal focus *if the use... It's definitely not a papercut :-) Personally, I think trying to prevent focus-stealing does more harm than go

[Ayatana] Papercut or not? Bug #495403 in On e Hundred Paper Cuts: “Do not raise windows o r dialogs without user input”

2010-05-24 Thread Sense Hofstede
Hello, I would like to ask for some feedback regarding bug , which was reported in December 2009 and is still pending as a papercut. The reported issue is that it is possible for windows to steal the focus when you're typing something. The example given by the re