[Ayatana] Fwd: Getting users to care (was Re: [Fwd: Re: Update manager])

2009-06-16 Thread Natan Yellin
Forwarding to the list. -- Forwarded message -- From: Alex Launi alex.la...@gmail.com Date: Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [Ayatana] Getting users to care (was Re: [Fwd: Re: Update manager]) To: Natan Yellin aan...@gmail.com On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Natan

Re: [Ayatana] Fwd: Getting users to care (was Re: [Fwd: Re: Update manager])

2009-06-16 Thread Aurélien Gâteau
Alex Launi wrote: David Siegel also had a really great idea for making updates fun (and it also solves the issue of how to handle updates- notification icon or pop-under window) at the install updates on shutdown discussion. Let me preface this with these are his ideas and not mine, I think

Re: [Ayatana] Fwd: Getting users to care (was Re: [Fwd: Re: Update manager])

2009-06-16 Thread Charlie Kravetz
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 18:09:24 +0200 Alex Launi alex.la...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:06 PM, tacone tac...@gmail.com wrote: Good intent, bad idea. I disagree, let's imagine this scenario, together... blur and wiggle dream sequence style scene change It's Tuesday

Re: [Ayatana] Fwd: Getting users to care (was Re: [Fwd: Re: Update manager])

2009-06-16 Thread ajmctaggart
...This was hilarious, sexy librarians and all... Me personally, I don't have a *huge *issue presenting updates at the beginning of a log-in sequence. As a user, you know they are there, and you either ignore or proceed. I can't help but think though, that when I login to my desktop normally,

Re: [Ayatana] Fwd: Getting users to care (was Re: [Fwd: Re: Update manager])

2009-06-16 Thread Alex Launi
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Charlie Kravetz c...@teamcharliesangels.com wrote: What about those who use an autologin? They will never see those gdm screens. Like I said, update-manager doesn't go away. It just gets more or less deprecated for most users. For this small subset we just

Re: [Ayatana] Fwd: Getting users to care (was Re: [Fwd: Re: Update manager])

2009-06-16 Thread tacone
Awesome, right? Not sure about what your whole reply meant. I think that notifying on startup has many disadvantage and it's not applicable in some cases (kernel upgrades, autologin). It's not wonder windows why asks for it at the shutdown. ___

Re: [Ayatana] Fwd: Getting users to care (was Re: [Fwd: Re: Update manager])

2009-06-16 Thread mac_v
Alex Launi wrote: I disagree, let's imagine this scenario, together... blur and wiggle dream sequence end style change The whole dream assumes that the downloads are already downloaded/quickly downloaded... Consider users with slow connections, so the downloads take time to be initially

Re: [Ayatana] Fwd: Getting users to care (was Re: [Fwd: Re: Update manager])

2009-06-16 Thread Alex Launi
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 8:06 PM, mac_v drkv...@yahoo.com wrote: AFAIK Auto downloads of the updates is far worse! 1: user might be using 3G at some point where the downloads cost a lot! 2: downloads while i'm watching streaming video content would cause the lags in my videos which i would