[Ayatana] Question about Bug Reporting Tools in Ubuntu, from a design perspective...

2009-10-07 Thread ajmctaggart
Greetings, Excuse me if this has already been addressed elsewhere. I, a pretty standard user, recently did a rather sloppy upgrade from Jaunty to Karmic (partially to see if I could handle it, partially because I'm lazy and I had a complete backup). My laptop had some pretty out of the ordinary

Re: [Ayatana] Question about Bug Reporting Tools in Ubuntu, from a design perspective...

2009-10-07 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
ajmctaggart wrote: > My question is this, why do we need to login to Launchpad through our > web browser to report these bugs? I feel it is extremely disruptive, > especially when something non-essential crashes and Ubuntu asks if I'd > like to file a bug. Of course I'd like to file a bug! That'

Re: [Ayatana] Question about Bug Reporting Tools in Ubuntu, from a design perspective...

2009-10-07 Thread Roderick B. Greening
> It's a damn good question! In general, the meme of "desktop apps talking > natively to LP" is very cool. We want the Software Center to be able to > automatically add PPA's you're subscribed to, for example. > > The Ubuntu One guys should be delivering an API which lets an app get > credentials

Re: [Ayatana] Question about Bug Reporting Tools in Ubuntu, from a design perspective...

2009-10-07 Thread Jim Rorie
I'd like to see this one as well for another reason. Yesterday I was reporting a Jockey bug and upon submission, launchpad died. The website gave me an oops and assured me that someone was looking into it. This was after a particularly agonizingly slow submission process. I had no idea if my rep

Re: [Ayatana] Question about Bug Reporting Tools in Ubuntu, from a design perspective...

2009-10-07 Thread Martin Owens
Hey Mark, On Wed, 2009-10-07 at 21:55 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > The Ubuntu One guys should be delivering an API which lets an app get > credentials in LP without going via the web. Elliot Murphy would be > able to connect us to the right person on that team. > > Those credentials could t

Re: [Ayatana] Question about Bug Reporting Tools in Ubuntu, from a design perspective...

2009-10-07 Thread Alex Lourie
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > ajmctaggart wrote: > > My question is this, why do we need to login to Launchpad through our web > browser to report these bugs? I feel it is extremely disruptive, especially > when something non-essential crashes and Ubuntu asks if I'

Re: [Ayatana] Question about Bug Reporting Tools in Ubuntu, from a design perspective...

2009-10-07 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 01:32:50 +0200 Alex Lourie wrote: >On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > >> ajmctaggart wrote: >> >> My question is this, why do we need to login to Launchpad through our web >> browser to report these bugs? I feel it is extremely disruptive, especially

Re: [Ayatana] Question about Bug Reporting Tools in Ubuntu, from a design perspective...

2009-10-07 Thread ajmctaggart
I'm so pleased that this topic interests others than myself. I too agree that integration and blending browser activities with our desktops are the way to go moving forward. For lack of better tools right now (I need to finish my assignment for my class this evening!) So, right now we have the "

Re: [Ayatana] Question about Bug Reporting Tools in Ubuntu, from a design perspective...

2009-10-07 Thread ajmctaggart
Leonov, Nice! How easily would this integrate into bug reporting tools in the near future? -Anthony On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 6:15 PM, ajmctaggart wrote: > I'm so pleased that this topic interests others than myself. I too agree > that integration and blending browser activities with our desktops

Re: [Ayatana] Question about Bug Reporting Tools in Ubuntu, from a design perspective...

2009-10-07 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 18:17:50 -0700 ajmctaggart wrote: >Leonov, Nice! >How easily would this integrate into bug reporting tools in the near future? > I don't have the impression that the project is very active at the moment. You might give \sh a ping and see if he's interested in help. Scott K

Re: [Ayatana] Question about Bug Reporting Tools in Ubuntu, from a design perspective...

2009-10-07 Thread ajmctaggart
Poking around at leonov.tv I believe what we would require from Leonov would be very small in terms of the scope of his original project. The other point is that Mark did say an API would be coming out. Leonov was around even before Launchpad's open-sourcing, correct? > The Ubuntu One guys shou

Re: [Ayatana] Question about Bug Reporting Tools in Ubuntu, from a design perspective...

2009-10-08 Thread Natan Yellin
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > ajmctaggart wrote: > > My question is this, why do we need to login to Launchpad through our web > browser to report these bugs? I feel it is extremely disruptive, especially > when something non-essential crashes and Ubuntu asks if I'

Re: [Ayatana] Question about Bug Reporting Tools in Ubuntu, from a design perspective...

2009-10-08 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
These are *awesome* ideas, Alex. Alex Lourie wrote: > I think that I am going different route than intended, but should such > integration end with bug submissions? What about asking questions with > sort of a GUI interface to Launchpad Answers directly without a browser? Ideally, LP would be int

Re: [Ayatana] Question about Bug Reporting Tools in Ubuntu, from a design perspective...

2009-10-08 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
ajmctaggart wrote: > So, right now we have the "crash report detected" in Notifications > area user clicks, > Moves to Kernel Problem Window (In my case) > User decides to report > Moves to Apport to collect data > User Can now either have already input Launchpad credentials into > System>Preferenc

Re: [Ayatana] Question about Bug Reporting Tools in Ubuntu, from a design perspective...

2009-10-08 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
ajmctaggart wrote: > Poking around at leonov.tv I believe what we would > require from Leonov would be very small in terms of the scope of his > original project. > > The other point is that Mark did say an API would be coming out. > Leonov was around even before Launchpad's op

Re: [Ayatana] Question about Bug Reporting Tools in Ubuntu, from a design perspective...

2009-10-08 Thread Alex Lourie
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > > These are *awesome* ideas, Alex. > > Thank you Mark, I really appreciate it. > Alex Lourie wrote: > > I think that I am going different route than intended, but should such > integration end with bug submissions? What about asking q

Re: [Ayatana] Question about Bug Reporting Tools in Ubuntu, from a design perspective...

2009-10-08 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Alex Lourie wrote: > While this would be a sort of heaven on Earth to see this in an IDE, I > think that Answers are still much more user-oriented, than developers > oriented. Good point. > I imagine this as something in lines of: > I click on some sort of "Ask a question" icon/button/link, and ge

Re: [Ayatana] Question about Bug Reporting Tools in Ubuntu, from a design perspective...

2009-10-08 Thread James Westby
On Thu Oct 08 08:06:15 +0100 2009 Natan Yellin wrote: > Must people have credentials to report a bug on Launchpad? I know that when > I need to create an account for something, I start to reconsider whether I > really want to do whatever I'm doing or not. We want to be able to ask them questions o

Re: [Ayatana] Question about Bug Reporting Tools in Ubuntu, from a design perspective...

2009-10-08 Thread Natan Yellin
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 11:21 AM, James Westby > wrote: > On Thu Oct 08 08:06:15 +0100 2009 Natan Yellin wrote: > > Must people have credentials to report a bug on Launchpad? I know that > when > > I need to create an account for something, I start to reconsider whether > I > > really want to do w

Re: [Ayatana] Question about Bug Reporting Tools in Ubuntu, from a design perspective...

2009-10-08 Thread James Westby
On Thu Oct 08 12:06:56 +0100 2009 Natan Yellin wrote: > What about making Launchpad an OpenID consumer ( > https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-identity-provider/+bug/210943) and > providing a "Login using a Gmail account" button. (Because many people don't > realize that Gmail is an OpenID provide

Re: [Ayatana] Question about Bug Reporting Tools in Ubuntu, from a design perspective...

2009-10-08 Thread ajmctaggart
> > All of the workflow should happen inside one, morphing window. Instead of > popping up multiple sequential dialog boxes, just keep it in one smooth > flow. > I love that, much smoother, with less clutter. It also commits a user to the process, verses he or she cancelling because this is taki

Re: [Ayatana] Question about Bug Reporting Tools in Ubuntu, from a design perspective...

2009-10-08 Thread ajmctaggart
> > Make it cool, give them something for free. How about on first login: "In > order to make the Ubuntu experience complete, we'd like to offer you 2 gigs > of online storage. This storage can be accessed from any Ubuntu machine, > and is completely free. May we sign you up? > User clicks yes.

Re: [Ayatana] Question about Bug Reporting Tools in Ubuntu, from a design perspective...

2009-10-08 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Natan Yellin wrote: > What about making Launchpad an OpenID consumer > (https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-identity-provider/+bug/210943) > and providing a "Login using a Gmail account" button. (Because many > people don't realize that Gmail is an OpenID provider.) Yes, that will happen too. It'

Re: [Ayatana] Question about Bug Reporting Tools in Ubuntu, from a design perspective...

2009-10-08 Thread ajmctaggart
I realize my model/diagram skills are lacking, but I've done my best to model my original idea of the bug reporting tool. I started this in OpenOffice Draw (please, please tell me if there is something better I should be using in Linux). I would like feedback to see if this is feasibly how the ap

Re: [Ayatana] Question about Bug Reporting Tools in Ubuntu, from a design perspective...

2009-10-08 Thread Natan Yellin
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > Natan Yellin wrote: > > What about making Launchpad an OpenID consumer ( > https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-identity-provider/+bug/210943) and > providing a "Login using a Gmail account" button. (Because many people don't > realize

Re: [Ayatana] Question about Bug Reporting Tools in Ubuntu, from a design perspective...

2009-10-09 Thread Jan Claeys
Op donderdag 08-10-2009 om 09:40 uur [tijdzone -0700], schreef ajmctaggart: > I started this in OpenOffice Draw (please, please tell me if there is > something better I should be using in Linux). You should use what feels best for you. ;-) Another possible program you can use is Dia ('dia-gnome

Re: [Ayatana] Question about Bug Reporting Tools in Ubuntu, from a design perspective...

2009-12-17 Thread ajmctaggart
I'm not attempting to revive an old thread of mine, but I recently finished exams, and I'd like to put in some effort to get this idea functioning. Anyone want to help? I don't really know the governance of how to request help for a project when I have no real coding experience myself. -Anthony

Re: [Ayatana] Question about Bug Reporting Tools in Ubuntu, from a design perspective...

2009-12-20 Thread Jonathan Lange
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 2:08 AM, ajmctaggart wrote: > I'm not attempting to revive an old thread of mine, but I recently finished > exams, and I'd like to put in some effort to get this idea functioning. > > Anyone want to help?  I don't really know the governance of how to request > help for a pr

Re: [Ayatana] Question about Bug Reporting Tools in Ubuntu, from a design perspective...

2009-12-21 Thread ajmctaggart
Thanks Jonathon, > Oh, and by "bling", I meant that having a pretty demo can often > inspire people to make the demo real. I'm no expert in that, but tools > like Glade and Balsamiq Mockups might help. That's a good idea, perhaps I can work up this over the holiday and start conjuring up some h